this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2023
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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] Myrbolg@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me it is lack of commercial interests (ads hidden in post), lack of bots, and lack of "funny meme and jokes' posts.

[–] bunnybum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lack of "funny meme and jokes' posts

This is it for me. The Pavlovian posting and upvoting of shitty jokes in every. single. thread. I haven't bothered with reddit's comment section in years because of it. Here, the comments so far seem chill and appropriate for the posts.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Narwhal bacons at midnight, fellow hydrohomie

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I too choose this man's hydrohomie

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[–] regretful_fappo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same shitty jokes at that, over and over and over again.

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[–] wolfeh@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy is so good right now because there's no commercialization here.

[–] cavsfan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

My ublock has been at a constant "0" on this site since I've started. A youtube tab will have over a hundred by the end of a 10 minute video.

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And hopefully never will be. It seems like the people hosting instances aren't in it for the money. Particularly the *.world guys have other fediverse projects big enough that they could've done something like, say, add ads to it.

[–] TheGreatFox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The .world sites are being financed by a patreon and other donations. They even make their finances public every few months.

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[–] Napain@latte.isnot.coffee 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

please don't randomly start some ageism crap suddenly now please. the vibes are good because we collectively experience self-efficacy against the corporate super power that is reddit. All people should feel welcome on lemmy

[–] Redecco@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I think it's cause everyone here has to actually try and make meaningful content here as opposed to being jaded and doom scrolling while posting among hundreds of others - and getting told to use the search function. Every post rn has an impact so the vibes are good!

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[–] Pillarist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think the influence on Reddit was deeper than a lot of people have considered. The hivemind was so strong it made it difficult to have decent and useful discussion, even the puns that muddied down nearly every post's comments achieved that end. The amount of posts I've seen of people feeling much more comfortable actually interacting on Lemmy, in my mind, lends weight to how Reddit wasn't a place for objective dialogue. That's why it felt so adolescent, like sitting at a high school lunch table.

[–] br3d@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yes, I got ground down by the same same discourse and tropes on post after post. I got especially enraged by "Came here to say this", which added literally nothing of value to the debate but would usually, somehow, have loads of upvotes

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[–] ledditor@leddit.minnal.icu 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enjoy while it lasts, Eventually everything turns to shit

[–] Nisciunu@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's very on point. We will have the same discussion in a decade about this platform as we have it now with Reddit. Maybe even sooner? Who knows.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Agree. But it's not kids, it's stupid people of all ages. Same thing happened with Reddit and with the Internet as a whole. Used to be you had to be a little smart to know you wanted to be on the Internet and figure out how to get it working. Then same was true of forums and IRC. Then same was true of Reddit. But then Reddit changed formats trying to be a TikTok style quick content scroll app, so idiots who just want to scroll started using the site and quality of discussions went down. I hope Lemmy grows but I hope the sign up process stays as it is, to weed out the extra stupid.

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think you‘re onto something. I read a lot of comments of people thinking the fediverse is too complicated to deal with and while I disagree - but also think it has issues - there does seem to be a barrier of entry for a good portion of people in the form of „inconvenience.“ So whoever is here really wants to be here and not just be an anonymous arse. I don‘t think you gotta be particularly smart, you gotta step out of your comfort zone.

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[–] T0rrent01@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not just fewer kids. But fewer conservatives too.

Gosh, I love it here.

[–] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Conservatives love having corporate masters, so they're all staying on reddit.

[–] T0rrent01@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know, it's so funny (though obviously not in an enjoyable way per se) how those folks are so selective and picky about freedom. Like freedom is OK when it's the freedom to enter a supermarket without a mask, but it's not OK when it's the freedom to express your gender. And as in this example, when it comes to corporate masters...

Don't you just love capitalism? And don't you just loooooove capitalists? It's honestly frightening how reminiscent it is to the way the fascists took power in 1930s Germany.

And by the way, I'm noticing a parallel with how much they not only embrace conservative evangelical Christendom, but also act like it's the epitome of freedom and liberty - the American Dream, if you will. If you attend one of the US's most notorious fundie schools, you're not allowed to stay up late, mingle with the opposite gender too much, attend dances, or be pretty much anything other than cishet (and implicitly, cishet white male). The irony of how said school is named "LIBERTY" University never seems to die on me.

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[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a win-win for everyone.

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[–] Flemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it's more just because we're early adopters and the first wave of refugees.

We're building something here - and right now, for some it's a new home, for some of us this is something big - a place that resists monetization. This isn't just the fresh new version of social media, built by cool people who have the best intentions and a vision (I think most of them did, at least initially)

Admins go bad, already some of the instances I'm on have people starting to look at not just paying for servers, but making a profit. And if they can live off the donations - fine, more power to them.

But when someone comes knocking with a bag of money, what are they going to do? They can sell us out, but they can't go far before we leave... What do we miss out on? The content will either follow or we're missing out on content elsewhere.

And we can mitigate it further - too many talented people care too much to let this idea die. We're going to face difficult times, but it's a new ephemeral Internet built on top of the one stolen from us - it doesn't start or end with a reddit clone.

And I think that's why we care - because this time is different. It can't go bad the way everything else does. It relies on no one, and it's built from all of us

This place is ours. No kings, no masters, no capitol, no capital

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[–] dimlo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

And no repost bots. Reddit top posts are so filled with trash reposts I have seen the 69420 times like I am looking back my primary school homework

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 10 points 1 year ago

What do you mean? I'm 16/f/cali

[–] AllonzeeLV@vlemmy.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meh, lets not.

In my experience, older people have to make conscious effort to maintain critical thinking and reasoning and not start lazily regurgitating settled, memorized opinions they've come rely on as absolutes, intead of allowing those beliefs to be subject to fresh challenges from novel perspectives that may change those opinions. Many do make that effort, and many do not. To paraphrase my favorite fictional character, if you refuse to change your mind, then you will die stupid.

Individuals are individuals of course though. I'm of the opinion that, on an individual basis, beyond the age of around 12, age is an extremely poor metric to estimate someone's intellect, wisdom, and insight. I'm in my mid 30s and have a master's degree in psychology with a 3.9 GPA. I recognize that there are 18 year olds that dwarf me intellectually, and more commonly 80 year olds who've lived lives devoid of reflection, who will die defending their long dead pappy's narrative about how the world works with anger rather than reason, solely because that's what they were told to believe. I have pity for that type, but very little patience.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I was a kid I thought grown ups were annoying, when I was in my 20s I thought teenagers were annoying, in my 30s I think people in their 20s are annoying. People will always have something to complain about others. “Kids” is just a different group for different people.

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[–] bloodcurdling@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

how do you do, fellow adults?

[–] sigh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] Merulox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I’m a teenage FOSS enthusiast and I’m of the opinion that there are a lot more of us here than you seem to all think.

[–] nbdjd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

not speaking for OP but when I think about not wanting "kids" around, I mean immature people. I'm looking to be part of something like the reddit prior to them buying Alien Blue.

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[–] RichLich@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I disagree. Terrible take. It's never wise to discount, alienate, or exclude our youth. Growth is the name of the game and they're the ones who are going to be ushering in hopefully a better future. Who will they learn from if not us? You want them stewing with each other?

No. We maintain whatever nebulous internet "culture" we like and establish rules. Anyone, young or old, who doesn't adhere can suck eggs. That way young people learn how to act and we can hear them tell us about all the ways we need to better society.

Truly I believe that the children who develop during this time of overstimulation and rapid technological advancement will emerge maybe a bit... maladapted but better than us. Humans can be so resilient especially under supportive circumstances. Our intelligence is adaptive. So if you want to make a great internet community, maintain your respect for our kids.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maturity really isn't the same as age: plenty of legally adult people (many already so for decades) around who are anything but mature individuals.

That said, as others here I think the absence of the subtle pressures derived from commercialization and profit-seeking make most of the difference.

Also, I've been thinking about the possibiility that both those already in Lemmy before and the Reddit refugees who came in recently, are at the most principled end of the spectrum compared with those still in Reddit (whose principles on the subject of ultra-authoritarian top-down imposition as done in Reddit clearly aren't strong enough to make them try something else), possibly also more confortable with change. This might make the crowd here at the moment a self-selected bunch leaning significantly more towards a certain psychological profile than the average which in turn (or so is my theory) affects the dominant tone of discussions here.

[–] cOlz@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are all early adopters here. They are typically more engaged with the product.

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[–] zav@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kinther@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's past your bed time. Stay off my lawn. Get a jawb! Cut yer hair! Stop smokin' the devil's grass!

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[–] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is like when people in 7th grade say that the 6th graders are sooo immature omg

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's so good because a lot of people have been waiting for a viable alternative to Reddit for half a decade or longer. It's non-corporate internet, the way it should be.

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[–] razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of Reddit around 2010.

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[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hiiiiiii guys! ~

I'm new heeereeeee! Am 12/f/cali looking for cutey cutey fweends!!!!! Uwu

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[–] ngz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I haven't been here much since I joined last week, but one thing I noticed is I've barely seen any typos on Lemmy. While I definitely don't mind seeing the occasional typo, the number of spelling mistakes was getting annoying, and it's gotten progressively worse over the last year or so.

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[–] Purpureo@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I loved reddit but there were definitely times where it felt like I was in a high school cafeteria.

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[–] Sirico@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not an age thing, It's the same reason the internet generally got toxic after a time people who aren't passionate about things take over and drown out the high effort contributers

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[–] Strangle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’m so happy to find a new community. Looking around quickly this seem like a much better group of people to interact with than reddit.

I can’t express enough how glad I am this place exists and I can be done with reddit forever

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