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[–] riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

all animal agriculture is inhumane and unethical.

all the labels only serve to easy ppls conscience. if someone wants to use their consume decisions to do something against animal suffering, they gotta stop buying

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean, you don't hear about the investigations where they find nothing of interest

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 months ago

If the meat industry thought truly independent investigators would find nothing, they would be funding them by the handful to report nothing

Instead, even the definitions they claim to use for being "humane" show it means very little

[–] PuddingFeeling907@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

Slitting the throats of chickens is not ethical. Do not downplay the severity of their suffering.

If you want to do better and reduce your white meat consumption I would suggest you start here:

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

True just like how it isn’t humane to raise humans for meat.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is why I avoid them. Just another lie, and guilt trip, to make the consumer spend more money. Dirty their conscious and make them pay to keep it clean.

The same goes for "eco friendly"/"no emissions" products. Guilt you for killing the planet, and changes nothing themselves.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 6 points 5 months ago

This is why I avoid them.

Them, as in dead animals on your plate?

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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Edit for clarification: not posting this in support of OP, it's just that I've noticed highly similar posting activities across different users in the same group or social circle on lemmy that remind me of the bite model because of certain similarities and anything that is similar to the bite model is concerning for me and i just want to bring attention to that

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Really!

This summarizes what I have heard…

Source

Certifications are a farce?

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Certifications don't mean much

The report analyzes several of the most popular labels. It calls out certifications produced explicitly by trade groups—including UEP Certified, created by United Egg Producers, and Farmers Assuring Responsible Management (FARM), created by the National Milk Producers Federation—identifying them as pure marketing tools that codify standard industry practices. It also details challenges with third-party certifications.

Across the spectrum of certifications, the report points to the fact that none completely eliminate several practices consumers may find inhumane—breeding fast-growing animals in a way that often impacts their health, immediately separating dairy calves from their mothers, and culling male chicks in the egg industry. (United Egg Producers pledged to eliminate the latter practice in U.S. egg production by 2020, but has so far failed to do so.)

Not even Animal Welfare Approved, run by the independent nonprofit A Greener World, addresses those issues

https://civileats.com/2021/01/19/are-some-animal-welfare-labels-humanewashing/

Bringing up a Tyson competitor, the farm manager wonders how other poultry companies handle supposedly free-range-raised chickens. The short answer: They don’t, really.

“Those birds don’t go outside — you know that,” the technician replies. “They don’t all go out … Look that up online.”

The manager chimes in: “It’s not like they make it like all of ’em come out and enjoy the sun.”

“That is strictly for commercial [advertising] purposes,” the technician says.

In 2017, the Intercept reported an investigation into a dozen California farms owned by a free-range chicken company that found no evidence of any animals spending any time outdoors. The chief animal care officer for Perdue Farms, a major chicken producer, has even said the vast majority of its free-range chickens stay indoors.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23724740/tyson-chicken-free-range-humanewashing-investigation-animal-cruelty

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

Tl;dr it's the same factory but with a 6x6 outdoor pen that most chickens never even see in their life