Give a knighthood to whoever blasted "things can only get better" during Rishi's announcement.
this post was submitted on 22 May 2024
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I'm not sure people in this thread get the significance of the song. If they don't remember 1997, they might simply be taking the song title literally
Well, now you've just made me feel old.
The sight of middle aged MPs cringe dancing to that is still indelibly seared into my brain...
Can they tho 🤔
Personally, I’m optimistic that things will get worse at a slower rate.
You've just been made very pessimistic by 14 years of Tory government
Isnt getting worse at a slow rate better than getting worse at a fast rate?
Using the roman numeral system, I’d say we’re currently at an I-rate
Yeah, that’s what I’m optimistic for.
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Hopefully we can have one less conservative government in the world. Down with transphobes.
It'll just be a slightly less conservative government, but I'll take it.
I have some bad news for you about the transphobes
In power from 22 oct 22 till today.
And this is the first announcement he has made, that he actually has public support for.
I wish I could feel hopeful for this.
Doubts about Starmer's Labour aside, even if I had complete trust in an incoming Labour government, I'd be worried; it's a lot easier to destroy than it is to build, and something I fear is if in 5 years, progress has been made, but the amount of readily visible progress is small enough that the Tories go "see, we told you that Labour couldn't be trusted with the economy" and slide back into government.
Probably not helping is seeing the news from the US also gearing up for an election — it doesn't feel like it's been very long at all since we were all relieved that Biden won out over Trump, but now here we are again.
My worst fear is not a Tory comeback but a lurch in more radical and populist direction if Labour fail to start visibly turning things around after the first term. It's unrelated to expect many if any first term miracles considering the state the country is in, but people are going to need to feel some sort of progress to stop the frustration boiling over.
This is going to be a real problem - because the Daily Mail and such will be screaming that all the problems are still there 6 months later - never mind that they've taken 14 years to put in place. People like my ignorant and racist sister in law, whose answer to the issue of migrants is to 'Just shoot them'. These people really do just open their mouths and let the bile pour out. She'd never vote Labour as they are too common. Unfortunately there are plenty like her about. Totally selfish and only concerned with themselves and showing off to their friends.
I'd put money on this happening. My mum and dad can't wait for an excuse to put their trust back in the Tories. All it'll take is a few headlines.
Thank fucking Christ. That's sooner than I expected too!
Your not alone. Even tory backbenchers were expecting autumn time.
Seems they think, the recent inflation news is the best chance they have. Especially given how desperate he is to claim the usual labour bad on econ. Dispite 14 years of failing to get it right.
I was starting to think they would dither their way into defaulting to January at the rate they had been going.
Tories out!!
We will have our independence day!
Non-Brit questions:
- What does the dissolution of Parliament mean as far as legislating until July 4th? Does everything come to a screeching halt?
- When do MPs get to head out to campaign?
- Does the dissolution affect the House of Lords in any way?
Parliament will be dissolved on 30th May. When the Commons is dissolved all business is ended and MPs stop being MPs. When the Lords dissolves business ends but Lords still remain Lords.
The government still remains and ministers keep their positions, but is effectively only a caretaker for the pre-election period, and cannot enact new polices except in exceptional circumstances.
The campaign period proper starts once Parliament is dissolved. Parties will publish manifestos shortly after, TV debates may be organised etc.
Thank you! That gives them a week to enact any last-minute laws.
In the U.S., this 'lame duck' period goes from November until January of each election year: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/what-happens-lame-duck-session-congress
Yeah you may have heard the term. Parliment is sovereign. It literally means there is never a true lame duck.
While parliment is dissolved. And technically the MPs are no longer MPs. Government can act but only in a clear emergency. The act they can always make. Is to request the king to make temporary laws.
Its never happened since the restoration. But technically the point of our constitutional Monarchy is the king passes power back and forth when parliment is opened and devolved.
In the event russia attacked or something else between 30th May and the end of the election count. Likely 5th or 6th. Sunak can operate government as normal. But would ask the king to enact any change in law. And parliment would be opened soonest once everything is sorted.
About fucking time
Oh thank god... I thought he'd draw it out even longer.
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