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I posted this question because I once saw a tweet that said something like:

"If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank"

What is your opinion on this? Do you agree with them?

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[–] jerieljan@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Once upon a time, I used to care and disabled adblocking by default.

But then they tried adding malware and ridiculous amounts of requests to third-party sites I didn't consent to share, and is actually consuming metered data on mobile back then when unlimited data wasn't an option.

So yeah, I'm adblocking by default now that it's been abused and it's necessary for self-defense.

[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I don't understand how anyone can live without adblock

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I own my computer, and I control what is displayed on it. I can do anything I want to control what is and isn't on my screen. It is not my problem is the majority of content is reliant on an ineffective monetization method.

I do wish someone would make an ad block that faked impressions. But it would probably lose the advantages of fast load times, security etc.

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[–] mintyfrog@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

This.

If you're a creator or platform that runs intrusive/invasive ads, you don't care about users

[–] nick@campfyre.nickwebster.dev 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use an adblocker but I turn it off for sites I like and want to support.

[–] timmytbt@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

It’s not just ads though, it’s the tracking that bugs me

[–] mrcranky@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This conversation made me go install Adguard Home in my house.

[–] godless@latte.isnot.coffee 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm using adblocker and sponsorblock on all devices (phone, Laptop, TV). There is no creator I like so much that I would endure those nuisances.

I do have paid subscriptions as well as ongoing patreons for some to ensure they get at least some revenue, but third party ads/ads spliced in from the main platform itself will not be tolerated.

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[–] MrApples@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

The internet is an usuable hellhole without uBlock Origin. I don't give two shits if creators are losing money. All you're 'creating' for me is annoyance with those invasive autoplaying video abombinations.

[–] frustbox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I like to change the metaphor. We're not visiting websites. We are inviting them into our homes.

But when we open the door, our friend brings a group of rowdy drunks with him, they're rummaging through closets (privacy invasion), they drink the beer (draining batteries and using internet data volume) and maybe they damage things (malware) - so I have a bouncer. If you're not invited, you're not getting in.

As for creatives, I'll happily tip them, i have no issues with sponsored content (as long as it is declared) - they probably get more from that then the ad-impressions.

[–] coffeemonster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Web is unusable without.I donate to content creators . They make more money, im less pissed off. Win win.

[–] Dakta@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I use an adblocker (uBlock Origin).

It blocks some malware. Also, most ads are low quality scams and there are too many everywhere. I do like to get tracked everywhere just by viewing ads.

[–] downtide@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

yes, because no ads basically means my antivirus software has nothing to do. Creators have no choice over what ads are served up with the content and 99% of ads are loaded with malware whether you click on them or not.

Creators need to come up with better ways to monetise their content instead of relying on them.

[–] aski3252@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, I absolutely use adblock, I couldn't imagine browsing without it. I support creators I like by donating them money or joining their patreon.

[–] ToNIX@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yes I do, screw ads. I use uBlock Origin on all my browsers and I run a home server with Adguard Home in it (I prefer Adguard Home instead of Pi-Hole, the former is super easy to update and it only runs on 1 service).

I often connect to my home server from my cellphone with Wireguard or OpenVPN to go through Adguard Home when I'm away.

[–] goji@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s an overly simplistic take.

Over the years, ads have become louder, bigger, more intrusive, more voluminous, and alarmingly much more β€œpersonal”

I value my peace and my privacy.

I support creators with donations, subscriptions and purchases. If it’s an exclusively ad-supported service that does so respectfully and reasonably, I might whitelist it.

Everything else gets blocked. I use AdGuard and their extensions, and a VPN set to a Swiss geo helps with the rest.

[–] Tak@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Citizen 36278 you must resume staring at this provided advertisement for 3.2657 minutes or food will not be dispensed.

[–] stallmer@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

It’s a bummer that blocking ads prevents some creators from getting money, but I’m not losing any sleep over it.

I don’t mind sponsored segments in videos and podcasts. However, the ads on YouTube and on many websites are invasive and annoying. That’s why I block them, and I won’t be turning it off.

[–] gdj209@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I usually run my adblocker because there have been too many instances of malicious ads and just overly annoying advertisements. I will support creators directly when possible, and in other cases will disable the adblocker for specific sites that I trust and find value in. The advertising industry did this to themselves, I don't feel bad for using the blocker.

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Who the hell doesn't use adblock ? Seriously, it's been at least 20 years that it's necessary to browse the web.

Some people like Lemmy admin's and other fediverse people try to rebuild a free internet where it's not needed. But unfortunately, in most of the web it's necessary. Your friend is doing a political statement about adblock there is nothing wrong in not agreeing with right wing people

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Pihole to filter ads network wide. I also have Tailscale setup so I can route all my DNS requests through my home network and filter mobile ads as well.

Fuck ads.

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[–] ppp@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah I use adblock.

If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank

Depending on what kind of content they serve, they usually still make a lot of money.

[–] BustaMyke@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

uBlock origin on my PC, AdGuard on my Google Pixel

I do want people to make their money but not to the point I get malware from a single click.

[–] zerbey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't be able to function online without an Ad Blocker, use uBlock on my PCs, PiHole at home and AdGuard DNS when on a cell phone. If I like an individual creator, I'll join their Patreon or make whatever donation they prefer.

[–] LimitedWard@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I like being able to surf the internet without having 90% of my screen plastered with ads as I scroll. Also fuck those ads that load 10 seconds after the article causing you to click them when you go to click on a link.

[–] Noxvento@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

ublock-origin all the way. I hate ads.

[–] Joe_0237@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I use an tracker blocker, because the way advertising is done today by google and similar is immoral, and its shocking that it is not illegal.

The way ads are put on duckduckgo, based on your search terms, or the way companies sponsor creators is great, that's the way advertising should be, and Iwant to support that.

But if you are going to be a creepy company (Google, Meta, ...) who wants to unconsensually track and profile me when my browser explicitly includes do not track requests, in order to manipulate my beliefs of purchasing habitats. As somebody who is aware of the problem, not using a tracker blocker like privacy badger would be wrong and immortal, because by allowing them to make money though abusing me, i would be supporting and aiding them in the evil they engage in.

Use a tracker blocker, don't help google be evil, and don't support anyone who demonizes you for refusing to support modern evil for their personal gain.

[–] Owell1984@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I remember the dark old days when I did not use adblock and then Brave came along and introduced me to the idea and everything was so simple, so much better. I block cookies and scripts on news sites and everything has been far better than what it was a few years ago.

I use Firefox + Ublock now and it has blocked a few million ads for me!

Watching this YouTube video makes me realise I have no regret using Adblockers.

I use Adblock because YouTube has too many ads, and anywhere else makes me feel like I'll get malware if I turn it off.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anybody not using Firefox + DuckDuckGo + uBlock in 2023 is asking for Spyware.

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[–] borlax@lemmy.borlax.com 4 points 1 year ago

I pay for content that I enjoy, but the general web is intolerable without an ad blocker.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use adblocking either through Chrome extentions or by using Brave Browser. I don't feel good about not supporting some websites, but ads have become extremely intrusive and excessive. It's not my fault that ads try to finger my brain at every chance whenever I am on the internet. I do it for my own peace of mind.

[–] Zatore@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I use it because I feel like ad's are forced on me at every turn in my life. Its not just the internet, but everywhere I go IRL. Bilboards on every road and highway. I actually think billboards should be illegal everywhere as they are an eyesore. Ad's at the gas pump when I'm filling up. Restaurants I go to with signs for unrelated businesses. At the store when the radio is playing. The radio is it's own mess. I have no idea how people listen to 3 songs an hour with no option to skip a song you don't like.

[–] icy_sweet@wirebase.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use a selfhosted public DNS which runs AdGuard Home where I have multiple block lists running that filter my whole Internet Access from Home, which not only makes my internet at home a lot faster because Ads and other annoying or malicious sites donβ€˜t even get loaded/sent to my home network, but makes it also safer. I run it on a VPS since I have my parents and friends use it too.

[–] suodrazah@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Please don't do this unless you understand and can manage the security implications of a public DNS server.

[–] A55A@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. I can still support a creator without watching terrible ads, and I really don't like selling my soul to DoubleClick.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely I use ad block. Ublock origin, plus a couple other privacy related extensions, plus browser configured with most privacy settings turned up all the way.

Most publishers seem to have no interest in giving me a good browsing experience, only in shoving as many ads as possible down my throat and violating my privacy as much as possible. So I have zero sympathy. I have sympathy for the smaller websites that then get locked as well, that wouldn't otherwise have intrusive ads, but I am not going to subject myself to the larger ones just for their benefit.

Without ad block I have found a lot of websites almost totally unusable, or significantly more time wasting. Reddit is of course a big one, new Reddit without ad block is a total clusterfuck. YouTube is also pretty bad.

Thing is, I'm happy to pay. I'm looking forward to an era when I can do microtransactions in crypto to pay a website a couple pennies for content I like.

[–] MrJMeadows@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

Ads have become so invasive that most sites are simply unusable without ad blocking. If I care about the creator, I usually pay the creator in some way.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I use unlock origin because it blocks ads and other annoying web features like cookies and newsletters popins.

[–] jsveiga@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I've never used them.

If I like an app or site, but the ads are annoying me, I do one of these:

  • If there's an option to pay the creator/aggregator to eliminate the ads, and the cost/benefit is worth it, I'll pay.

  • If there is no option to pay, but the app/content is worth the ads annoyance, I'll keep using the app/site and watch/skip/ignore the ads.

  • If there is no option to pay, or there is, but the price is higher than what I perceive as the app/content value, I'll stop using the app/site.

For example, I paid for Baconreader Premium, but I watch YouTube ads, and I removed several sites from my google home page feed because they had more ads than content.

I'm also stop using Reddit, as I don't think it's worth enduring their obnoxious native app.

And no, I don't use pirated software, nor watch or listen to pirated movies or music. If something is priced above what I consider it's worth, I just don't use it.

Yes, Baconreader Premium could be consider as a "reddit ad blocker", but it operated within Reddit's approval. Now Reddit changed their rules, and it's their rules.

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[–] wholemilk@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I'll buy merch and/or donate to the creator but I won't watch ads

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