So one of the few reasons I still occasionally go on reddit is because I have a weird fascination with right-wing conspiracy theorists, their incredible levels of confirmation bias and confused way of thinking. That kind of community just doesn't exist on lemmy (not complaining).
One thing I have noticed in the past couple of years is that not only do they seem to become more popular, the community also seems to simultaneously move further right and, in some confused ways, more to the left.
They simultaneously think immigrants and the LGBT community is to blame for everything while thinking that it's WEF that is secretly planning everything.
To name one example, there was a post today that was incredibly bigoted not just against LGBT people (which is pretty accepted in those circles obviously), but also criticizes "race mixing", which is quite extreme even for those circles (it has since been removed due to breach of reddit ToS)..
At the same time, some people in the comments seem to be so close (yet so far) to becoming full blown socialists. For example, here is one comment:
"I often wonder what's stopping us from taking what they have? As far as I can see, laws are the only thing protecting them. If they aren't following the laws than we shouldn't either. For example what would Bezos do if employees decided they wanted to take control of his warehouses simultaneously? There is nothing he could do. There isn't even available law enforcement to tackle a scenario like that."
And yes, I checked, this is a full blown right-winger who thinks illegal immigration is ruining America, not some kind of undercover leftist, as far as I can tell.
So what do you make of this stuff? Does it say something when even the confused fringe right essentially flirts with the idea of a "socialist uprising"? Or is it just classic far-right populism/fascism using leftist talking points to divide the working class? Does this mean that there could potentially be some kind of hope that those people reach some kind of class consciousness or are they just too lost and confused?
Verstehe als Schweizer nicht ganz, wie genau das definiert wird. Ich dachte, "Linksextreme" wären Teile der radikalen Linken, welche Gewalt (ob gegen Sachen oder Menschen, defensiv oder offensiv) ausüben (bereits eine komische definition, aber naja).
Aber im Artikel steht, der Präsident vom Verfassungsschutz "gehe von rund 37.000 Menschen aus, von denen etwa 11.000 gewaltbereit seien". Also ist eine Mehrheit von "Linksextremen" gar nicht "gewaltbereit" laut Verfassungschutz? Woher wollen die das wissen? Und wer zählt alles denn als "Linksextrem"? Menschen, die das Kapitalistische Wirtschafssystem überwinden möchten? Dann wären ja alle Linken, oder zumindest die meisten, "Linksextrem". Selbst die Sozialdemorkatische Partei der Schweiz wäre dann ja, laut Ihrem Parteiprogram zumindest, "Linksextrem".. Und die ganzen Umweltaktivisten, welche einen "Systemwechsel" fordern, erst recht. Aber das ist ja auch nichts neues, also was genau hat sich denn geändert? Und wer sind denn genau die "zahlreichen Akteuren aus dem linksextremistischen Spektrum", zu welchen die Organisation angeblich Kontakte hat? Und natürlich geht es bei zivilem Ungehorsam darum, das Gesetz (vor allem sinnlose Gesetze) zu brechen.. Das ist ja der Sinn des ganzen.
Wirkt alles etwas willkürlich, oder sehe ich das falsch?