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Fallout Show, so bad that no one will remember it in 3 months (fandomwire.com)

submitted 7 months ago by delitomatoes@lemm.ee to c/gaming@beehaw.org

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[–] Hazmatastic@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

I love Fallout and played 3, NV, and 4 avidly. It's a good adaptation. A little campy, but it feels like something made by people who know and love the source material. And with the goofy moments come some real nasty aspects of the wasteland laid bare with no question as to how nasty it is, even in the first couple episodes.

The Vaults setup was unique enough to feel new, but fit the Vault-Tec MO nicely. 4 felt generic, but I think it was mainly included for people who didn't play the games so they could get a general vibe.

The subtle nods are nice, with enough items and mechanics from the games peppered through to make it feel like part of the universe. Some are on the nose like Sugarbombs, but I've recognized generic NPC armor from the games on extras in the background.

It was also odd but fun to see game mechanics work in real time, like seeing drugs heal a grievous injury

If you want an adaptation of Fallout story it may fall short with the lighter stuff. But if you want an adaptation of a Fallout playthrough I think you're I for a good time.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've finished 3 fallout games but fortunately don't remember any of it well enough for any of this to mean anything to me so I can just enjoy the show.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 7 months ago

Same... but the caveat for me. I remember the gameplay and main story of each game...i can't for the life of me remember any of the flavor text/ world text... so little details that the series gets wrong will likely not erk me like other shows have in the past.

I'm only a couple episodes in at the moment though... who knows, watching might spark all sorts of memories.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They should have made one more episode to where after she gets out, they explain some of the factions, the monetary system, and where in the Wasteland they are. All in all, I liked it and can't wait until season 2.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

On the Prime Fallout site, they have a bunch of extras and bonus content that explains a lot of the background stuff like that. It’s kind of neat. You should check it out.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Its a great show and Im enjoying it despite the massive, glaring world consistency issues.
Like what the hell happened to the NCR?

Or, you know, the lore of all of the games outside of Fallout 3 and 4.

Its painfully clear that Todd is salty that the worst two games in the fallout series are 3 and 4. So he's erasing the pre bethesda games and the best game(that respects the original lore), New Vegas.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Have you finished the series? Because I don’t think I agree with this at all.

Not one bit.

Edit: to explain further would contain massive spoilers.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I know what they are.

Trick is it directly counteracts the games. In the year the show happens is the same year new vegas happens. This is after the brotherhood was reduced to cowering in a hidden bunker with zero force projection capability.

The show is great, but its Bethesda fallout, not Fallout.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

No it isn’t. The show is happening in 2296, 11 years after FO4 (2285). FNV takes place in 2281.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That makes it worse.

The western Brotherhood of Steel, at the start of new Vegas, is reduced to One Chapter holed up in One tiny bunker with no vertibirds, no supplies, no manufacturing. They have to send lone scavengers out in the cover of night just to steal enough food to survive.

The battle of Helios One ended the brotherhood as a major player in any capacity. They threw everything they had at the NCR and lost badly.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And you can’t think of them building back up (even one major chapter), with the help of other Brotherhood chapters, in the fifteen years afterwards?

That’s a failure of your imagination, buddy, not a shortcoming of the show.

[–] kbin_space_program@kbin.run 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The only other chapters are on the east coast, have no desire or ability to contact each other. Hell, the west coast group don't even know the east coast chapters survived, let alone thrived because they seized project purity. And while they made the trek before, the middle of the US after that became Caesar's Legion, 15 years after his fall it would be an impassable wasteland.

The east coast chapters were strong enough in DC to send out squads to Boston, but never anything more than a recon. Its even Bethesda lore in fallout 4 that they dont have the resources to move the Prydwin back to DC.

The NCR can make prewar tanks, power armor and vertibirds; they have a GECK.

Edit: to be clear: the only ending the western brotherhood of steel has to survive is to be absorbed into the NCR.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You have no idea what happened in the 15 years between FNV and the show, or the 11 since FO4.

All I’m hearing is that you couldn’t have imagined it, therefore everyone else is wrong— and that just makes you look like you have a very limited imagination, not that everyone else is wrong for coming up with a better story that you could have.

You’re very welcome not to like it, but you still haven’t laid out any solid evidence for your claims other than speculation.

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[–] CuttingBoard@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

According to my Steam stats I played the 3rd one for about twenty minutes. The game engine seriously hurt it. The show was worth watching because it had nowhere to go but up.

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[+] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

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[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If the best description of something can only be broken down to "reddit liked it" then either the person doesn't know how to describe anything, or that's an accurate description in itself.

I watched the first episode and found it not interesting. Certain things were good and others bad, but I just didn't care and was waiting for it to end.

Apparently I'm in the minority as fans seem to flock to defend it. To each their own.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a "fan", haven't played the games, other than some of the shitty mobile one, but knew some of the lore.

Just binge watched all episodes... and judging all of them by just the first one, is a mistake. There's much more to the show than what amounts to a basic introduction.

But to each their own, as you said.

[–] Broken@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's fair. I just figured when they introduced the characters and world building and I didn't find most of it interesting, then the following would be similar.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago

The following is somewhat similar, but it keeps changing, and there is a decent evolution of the characters (hard to pull off in just 8 episodes, but they did it). Basically it's 3 shows in one: in-vault, surface, flashbacks. Each one has its own conspiracy, which all come to a joint conclusion at the end, with a slight cliffhanger for the second season.

It's not the best show I've ever seen, but I'd say they did a good job.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (22 children)

I stopped watching in the first episode when the tiny girl beat up a muscular huge man.

Felt like avengers but she is supposed to be a normal girl right? I felt it was so dumb.

[–] flumph@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

It's a video game show that uses the rules of the video game world.

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[–] Whayle@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

I played the games. I think the show's sets and designs are good, but I can't get into it. It just feels like sequalitis with no soul.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Anything I should be aware of if I decide I'd like to give it a watch?

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[–] Templa@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago

Best thing in the show was the mistery of vault 31 and the solution was extremely underwhelming. I think people just need time to digest. I hate Maximus.

[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

i am a big new vegas fan, and follow a lot of youtubers and other parts of the fandom - I havent seen this backlash against the show this article mentions? Most NV fans are pretty happy with it that Ive seen.

Maybe this is only happening in the more toxic circles?

[–] DoctorButts@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 7 months ago

I agree, it's not very good.

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