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[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Really resembles a bill of attainder, to me.

We'd ALL be much better off, and a similar outcome could be achieved, by putting to law strict data security and privacy rules. Plus it wouldn't inevitably be challenged on very reasonable 1A grounds. But that isn't as politically possible because so many -- especially conservatives -- don't believe in the liberty of privacy.

[–] harderian729@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The entire point is to open up the market for an American company.

Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't paying attention to the world around them.

The data privacy issues will still exist. The 'engagement' issue will still exist. But it's okay when Americans screw over Americans.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That’s a big part of it too, but i think an even bigger part is the use of TikTok in counter culture. It is definitively the largest gathering of counter culture on the web. They fear losing control of the narrative. The intelligence agencies already control Meta and google. They have members on TikTok’s board. Social media is an avenue for consent manufacturing for our government, and any deviation from their manufactured line is unacceptable.

[–] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

And what's your proposed solution?

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ban social media entirely.

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[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nothing of value would be lost.

[–] pete@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

But it would also be replaces by something else equily as shitty. The federal government doesn't move fast enough to block stuff like this by name.

I has to be something broad, and enforceable. Tic tok has already been doing its thing for like 5 years.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I am not surprised that this is happening. What I am surprised is how many people have no idea how fucked up this law is or its implications, and are therefore defending it because "lawl le crinj china app xdxdxdxdddd"

Bro. This law literally bans the usage of VPNs to access foreign sites and services. Even China won't fuck with that, and they invented the concept of having a separate internet that abides by their censorship. VPNs are legal and common there. Also, like, this thing we are using? The Fediverse? Where half the servers are not in the US of A? Say goodbye to IT as well.

Y'all are cheering for the building of "The Great Firewall, but painted Red White and Blue" but don't even realise it because you think an app where some kids do dumb dances is literally the devil.

Anyway, enjoy your self-made dystopia, I'll be here in the third world laughing at your faces.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are no first world countries without fully paid public healthcare.

So ironically, they're also laughing from the 3rd world ;)

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I would like to note that my shitehole of a third world home country has public healthcare.

It's not excellent, far from it, it's in fact very flawed: It's underfunded, depending on the area you'll be "queuing up" for your consultation for so long that you'll either recover on your own or drop dead, and sometimes doctors have to push ghetto treatments because the real thing is too expensive, so if you have the option, you'd rather not.

.... But it exists, it genuinely saves lives, and also -- In existing it also drives down the price of private healthcare, meaning that middle-class folks (like me!) can afford it without being sent over the poverty line.

Crazy how that works. We've been Murica's bitch for two centuries now, but life here still seems ~~miles~~ kilometers better than over there.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I would be all okay with this move if the US is imposing equal data protection and privacy rules to all American companies as well.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Well this ad placement is intereting

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Go to settings -> Network&Internet -> Private DNS -> enter "dns.adguard.com"

Enjoy ad-less experience in most apps except Instagram, YouTube apps.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Thanks a heap, i just switched from Liftoff to Sync last week (when liftoff stopped working) and thought i was just going to have to live with those ads. Much appreciated!

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It's actually dns.adguard-dns.com now. I have no idea why they changed it.

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[–] theamigan@lemmy.dynatron.me 2 points 6 months ago

Good. It's about time.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One part of me feels this is overreach, but social media is doing as much harm as it is good. We need to rethink the internet.

Social media hasn't done any good in the last 20 years. It's been detrimental to society for a very long time.

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Do we have a Fediverse alternative ready to step in if they do?

[–] K3zi4@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Instagram Reels is the exact same model as tiktok, but that's allowed to stay, because of murrica and freedom or something.

The only real concern with tiktok is the worry about data collection. But if they cared about that, then they'd pass laws on it. It's only because it's not a US company profiting from the data collection of their property. Sorry, I mean free citizens.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago

Same problem as with YouTube alternatives, hosting video files is expensive.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

even if we did, I don't think people would be interested in using a replacement without a recommendation algorithm that's powered by tracking every millisecond you spend in an app in order to tailor the content to your interests.

also, storing video is p r i c e y.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

Lol if you think the Fediverse gets to exist if they implement this bill

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nothing of value is lost if TikTok goes away.

What would really happen is it’ll be sold to an American company.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tbh as an asian, the easiest way for me to access american content is Tiktok. So i will get sad if it gets banned.

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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Pooh’s gonna be pissed.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

His popularity will absolutely tank with the younger generation if he does

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I don't think he cares about his popularity with people under 18

People under 18 are by no means the only demographic that's addicted to tiktok.

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Does he have any popularity with the younger generation? The kids I know are smart enough to realize their options are bad and worse.

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