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[–] Blissingg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Opening the comments section of stories like this is always a real eye opener for the type of people lemmy has attracted kinda sad.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (19 children)

No kidding. Who is honestly against moves like this? I mean very few issues are black and white and defending Ukraine is as close to being on the right side of history as one can get. They were invaded by a much larger country that suppressed them for so long. They are a democracy that is trying really hard to further the will of their people. Russians are committing genocide against the local population. Supporting Ukraine and watching the Ukrainians fight back for their freedom is one of the few great parts of history that inspires.

[–] Bobo_Palermo@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

The only real country that comes close to Russia lately as far as a polarizing bad guy is WWII Germany, and THAT is saying something.

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[–] zalack@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I get being cynical about all of the wars the U.S. has been part of in my lifetime.

But if you can't see how helping the Ukrainians is unequivocally the right thing to do, I don't know what to say. To me it's nice to be the good guys for once and point our defense industry at something worthwhile.

[–] C3ltic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's already a huge handful of conservative communities and almost every conservative I've ever met is suddenly very upset with our military budget and without any proof think Zelensky is just pocketing the money.

But it has felt like they're still the minority for the time being.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you seen the community list? The top conservative communities have like 150 subs.

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[–] zacher_glachl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I gotta say, the tankie infestation of the fediverse is giving me serious second thoughts about this place. I get that it will get better over time as more people join and dilute the crazies, but I currently have a very hard time suggesting lemmy to people because of this.

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[–] zzz@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay I'll bite. Some people support Ukraine but don't support more weapons spending. In the early days of reddit, a lot of the power users were libertarian leaning programmers, and Lemmy has naturally attracted that cohort. You can see subs like Privacy and Piracy moving here, and there is a staunch anti government position that comes with anti centralization. I don't think these people should be called sad, as some are very well reasoned and thoughtful about their anti government position. What's more, if you don't live in the United States, it's very easy to call out the hypocrisy of US government warmongering e.g. in the middle east.

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[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hate war, but Ukraine hates dying. Beat Putin's ass, and Slava Ukraini!

[–] SoPunny@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

War sucks, and most veterans and their families know it. But when forced to fight Ukraine is standing, and I hope that Western support doesn’t waiver. I’m sure Putin is hoping to interfere in moar elections as an out.

Could you imagine if his lil orange minion was in power?

Shudders.

Ps, people make sure you are registered to vote.

[–] finder585@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And if you are registered to vote, periodically check if you are still registered.

[–] SoPunny@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Great advice!

My other tidbit is always research the Board of Education, you would not believe the policies some want to put in place. Texas didn’t want to teach higher order thinking skills because they encourage teen rebellion. The book banning we are seeing start up again etc.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/texas-gop-rejects-critical-thinking-skills-really/2012/07/08/gJQAHNpFXW_blog.html

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[–] tara@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] administrator@lemmy.pro 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All I can say is Slavi Ukraine! Stay strong and I hope you persevere.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I kind of don’t even understand how, in the age of missles, we still have tanks and soldiers at all. I guess I don’t understand how missles work. My assumption is that they’re able to just erase anything that is in a spot you indicate in some kind of Google maps interface. If they’re not that smart, I don’t understand why not. How do armies still march and drive around in tanks when the enemy can just push a button on their phone and cause explosions where they are?

[–] Rogue_General@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because anti-air deletes missiles. Also you can't hold territory with just missiles. You need land presence, and for that you need soldiers. And since soldiers are more useful alive than dead, we built thick metal boxes that can roll around the battlefield so they can be protected while being transported to important locations. The metal boxes themselves also have big ass cannons attached that will utterly destroy any other vehicle or building an enemy might be using as cover. These are just some of the reasons soldiers and tanks are still used.

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