Can you set it up so that we can invite friends with referral links (a la mastodon style) and it bypasses the application requirement? Maybe we have to apply to get the referral link activated.
this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2022
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Invite only instances would be also nice for self-hosting.
Not opposed as long as someone else codes it lol. I'm a bit swamped.
Fantastic idea! I actually never thought about this, this could probably be done fediverse-wide.
I downvoted and reported as many posts as I can, I don’t know how much that helped but it was good to check back a couple hours later and see that the trolls’ posts had been removed
Thank you for doing this o7
Perhaps to avoid this type of user, a pre-school intelligence test would suffice.
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Thank you for all the work you do!
No probs!
No worries. I have seen surprisingly few of these types of posts, so you're currently doing something better then other alternatives and I appreciate your efforts to make things even better.
What does a person need to apply as admin or moderator? (this last one in general communities driven by admins or thought at site level like asklemmy)
This is just my opinion. Applications are reviewed on a case by case basis and is up to a vote by the existing admins.
Must haves:
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A history of quality activity on Lemmy.ml or another instance we federate with, such as amicable discussion, links to reputable web resources, etc.
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Frequently online. I'd say at least once a day is ideal, but I also understand that you're a volunteer, and will reasonably have other things going on where you might be missing for several days or otherwise intermittent at times.
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An interest in helping to develop the Lemmy community and ecosystem.
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No recent violation of instance rules or Lemmy project code of conduct.
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Is not currently banned from Lemmy.ml on another account.
Optional but could help your application:
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History of reporting rule breaking content, particularly spam.
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Has participated in discussions on Lemmy development or the the direction the Lemmy community is going.
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Already a moderator of a community, or an admin on another instance (we will use your moderation history to assess your application).
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Activity on the Lemmy Matrix rooms (please Link your Matrix).
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Activity on the Lemmy project GitHub or other source control site that Lemmy is on, either as a code contributor or making/discussing pull requests (please Link your GitHub/other source control website).
It would also help to specify your time zone and the languages you know.
Must haves:
- To check by you if my history is enough
- I connect to Lemmy.ml three times a day at minimum to read mostly.
- Yes, I have. I use to try to even promote Lemmy here but it is difficult given the main focus in English content (by now).
- To check too.
- No
Optional:
- To check as I don't track myself on that since recently.
- I think I can say that I did and do.
- No, never thought on applying until now. I was not sure if I could hold the responsibility.
- I am not in Lemmy Official Matrix room(s), I only helped to mount the unofficial spanish one ( https://matrix.to/#/#lemmy-es:mozilla.org ) and my Matrix account is @echedeylr:mozilla.org.
- A little but my account is https://github.com/EchedeyLR.
Timezone: one less than Nutomic's one
Languages: Spanish and English (not native, B1 certified)
I've forwarded your application to the admin Matrix room, thanks!
Thanks to you too.
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For admins, you can express interest here, and we'll look them over.
cc @k_o_t@lemmy.ml @AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml @nutomic@lemmy.ml @kixiQu@lemmy.ml
I provided my two cents!
The brigading is really unfortunate and thanks to the admins for doing all the work to contain it. As Lemmy grows in usage requiring email verification may be unavoidable, but hopefully having a registration application will do the trick in the immediate term. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later, so at least this is a useful test case for how such brigading and spam can be addressed going forward.
Admins could also tweak register_per_second and register params
Thanks a lot! I have implemented this in my instance too. This past week I was also saw several accounts being created to post ads.
Doing registration form with manual approval is a good first step. My 2 cents is you could also implementing an invite based registration where users are allowed to invite their trusted friends.
Similar to how reputable private trackers works. There is form registration, interview, or invite from existing members. If existing member invites too many leechers, the current member will get a warning and ban eventually. This system is mostly working for private trackers so far.
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Also,it would be nice to have some sort of moderation/ban federation to avoid having to do the work on each instance.
I'm sure it's easier said than done but would be very beneficial to the project and community.
I second this. If someone/something is banned and removed from an instance it shouldn't still be visible on a linked instance. If this isn't already a pending feature request I'll happily make one for it.
I think there is an open issue for federating bans. Once @nutomic@lemmy.ml gets some time he said it wouldn't be too difficult.
Thanks for this. I'd stick to the It's FOSS channels if I wanted to see loads of fascist crap 🤣 Love being on Lemmy!
I think having more admins from more time zones is the best solution, then e-mail verification and then having to fill out a form because it takes time to be reviewed and it takes more time from me because i have to write shit and anyway i can lie.
I downvoted and reported as many posts as I can, I don’t know how much that helped but it was good to check back a couple hours later and see that the trolls’ posts had been removed
After upgrading to 0.15.1, I activated the signup form. I haven’t had to deal with the daily trolls. Not ideal but it helps.
You do not need to apologize for actions of others, you did your best and you found a solution for this issue which is what at the end counts.
Lemmy does lots of more work than most other platforms I know, admins and mods are often very fast and helpful + resourceful.
My idea was to introduce some sort of reputation based system but the problem is, that bots maybe could abuse the system to upvote themselves to get some sort of credit or reputation, call it what you want. Most boards use captchas and eMail verification systems to workaround this. Maybe an option would be to enable captchas for users who have below x posts as a middle ground, lets say 1 captcha per new submission until you have 5 posts in total.
Reputation would just turn this into Reddit, where you can't do anything or interact unless you use a single account or post what Reddit would like you to post.
Yeah I updated my statement, gave an example. Up until 5 posts. I think that is okay as a middle-way. The system is not meant as competition system or to farm something.
The Lemmy devs have already decided that karma is just a bottomless pit that just harms users mental health, so it's highly doubtful we'd ever have a reputation system be introduced, as that's literally the same thing.
Also, captchas can be preventative to people with certain disabilities, so introducing them (I believe it would be reintroducing, actually) would contradict Lemmy's disability-inclusive culture. As well, email verification wouldn't work for people who would prefer anonymity. And nefarious users could just use a spoof mail account, so the introduction of required email account verification would really only harm privacy-focused real users, and do nothing to prevent trolls. Also, while on the subject and though you didn't mention it, we don't ban IPs because some VPNs reuse them for multiple people. So banning the IP of a troll might also cause the ban of real users.
These are my thoughts on email too. Using throwaways is so easy for trolls, and legitimate users now have a privacy concern since a lot of the "legitimate" email services are really invasive.
Thanks, I've done the same over on lemmy.pt. Hope this helps :)
Unless you can get everyone else on your shared instance list to do the same this is pointless. Look I just made this user on another instance that required email verification. I used a temp email service and am able to post what ever I want here.
You should instead have a period the user has to wait before posting so that you can have a night sleep without worrying about trolls flooding your site.
All of the accounts that were posting in the event were two days old. Having a wait time doesn't help there.
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@dessalines@lemmy.ml what about allowing federation on an allowlist-only basis?
Imo its not necessary to go back to allowlist yet, and I'd rather add malicious instances to our blocklist. We've only had to add like 2 so far, but can easily add more.
This is a random idea, but what if instance admins could subscribe to another or multiple other instances block lists? It might be a useful mechanism to reduce duplicate work. Smaller instance admins could subscribe to larger instance block lists to share the moderation burden.
I don't think I'd want to work to automate anything w/ respect to that, but you can use the API to get a list of any blocked instances : https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/site
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