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[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Jokes involving racial stereotypes can be funny and inoffensive if what you're making fun of IS the stereotypes, not the race. The writers of Airplane! being Jewish themselves, I reckon they knew exactly what they were doing. At least the bearded plane is clearly an example of making fun of the stereotype, not the people.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Soul Plane was a non-stop parody of black stereotypes. Damn that was good.

[–] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] xor@infosec.pub -1 points 6 months ago

interesting... it turns out GNAA did get their name from that...
(p.s. at least one of the members, weev, went on to become a literal nazi... and is potentially responsible for the rise of trump)

[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

- Would you like something to read?

- Do you have anything light?

- How about this leaflet, "Famous Jewish Sports Legends?"

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

People have gotten less sensitive over time, we just don't laugh at someone saying the n word or making light of sexual assault any more. I grew up on the dark web and the things people say/do nowadays blows even some of the worst stuff I seen there out of the water. Society is maturing, not regressing. Ignore the whingings of hack comedians who still think squinty Asian eyes and bad accents are the pinnacle of humor.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

how about the topless shot halfway through this PG movie?! it feels like there is a lot of content they would never achieve that rating with today.

[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Frankly a plain topless shot is not in my opinion grounds for anything heavier than a PG rating

[–] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Ski Patrol, Police Academy 2, and Airplane the list goes on for 80s movies with a single brief topless shot.

I'd argue the self-aware humor of Airplane was really calling out stereotypes like the one pictured, and defusing tensions with humor. Now Revenge of the Nerds, there's a problematic movie.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com -1 points 6 months ago

dude, lets just rape some people or otherwise sexually assault them and call it good-natured fun!

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do people here think this is offensive to Jews?

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It might offend some overly sensitive Israelis or Zionists but they are not representatives for all Jews.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure you’ve met a real Israeli in your life if you genuinely think this would be offensive to them.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

Are you Israeli? I ask because you only took the parts of my comment you wanted then got mad at me about it. Or maybe all Israelis are “overly sensitive”

[–] stinerman@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't (and I'm not Jewish), but I can see how it might.

The way I see it, if it was a joke to poke fun and it was good-natured, it shouldn't be offensive. I mean the Zucker brothers who were writers on the movie are themselves Jewish, so they thought it was hilarious. All that being said, I don't get to speak for Jews as to what they find offensive.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’m just curious because I’m Jewish and I don’t know of any Jews who would find this offensive.

If the plane was rubbing its hands together and yelling “oy vey shut it down” I’d probably hear a dog whistle somewhere. Still wouldn’t get offended tho. I’d just know they’re a special type of moron.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This and blazing saddles could not be made today.

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Blazing Saddles openly called out racism and made it the butt of almost all of its jokes. I think both it and Airplane could be made today, and would be received well. Why do you think differently?

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Idk maybe the sheer number of racial slurs said by white characters. I don't think that would fly in today's political landscape.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago

Have you seen any of Quinton Tarantino's films?

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You don't think that openly mocking white people who use racial slurs would fly? How so?

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just think it would be idiotically cancelled for even having that kind of behavior in it in the first place.

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Why do you think that would happen? Can you give me some examples of media making fun of racists and getting "canceled" as a result?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Of course not! A studio would take one look at the script and say "hey! These movies already exist!"

[–] GombeenSysadmin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Now, in all fairness, when did that ever stop the bastards

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

They absolutely could. If Dave Chappelle can do 5 hours of shitting on trans people, a Jewish writer can write a scene where a plane is wearing a tallit with a beard.

[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As a German, this is one of the few movies where the dubbed version is just as good as the original, in parts even better.
Especially the part where they're speaking Jive, which is "translated" into a thick Bavarian dialect, including subtitles saying something completely different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEkI0cH_rK4

And for some reason, they translated the movie's title to "Die unglaubliche Reise in einem verrückten Flugzeug" (The Incredible Journey on a Crazy Airplane).

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

That’s fun :)

alt-text: map of “"AIRPLANE!" (1980) - international release names translated to English”

[–] TakiMinase@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 months ago

Freedom of expression.