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[–] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 19 points 7 months ago (27 children)

But you can make cheese out of it and cheese is life.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 months ago

Cheese is death

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[–] 3volver@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know you've succeeded with a truly unpopular opinion when you get more downvotes on Unpopular Opinion while no one is complaining that it is a popular opinion.

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Diets are pretty intrinsic to how people live. This is the equivalent of an edgey atheist teenager shitting on Christianity as an unpopular opinion.

[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It is an interesting picture you are painting and true, it is probably how most people would see it.

However, your comparison with religion is a little bit off. Engaging in religion is (and should be) a personal choice that is just including you - i.e. it should not force or be forced by others.

But by choosing to consume animal products, you don't just choose something for yourself - you are forcing someone else into pain and ultimately death.

That is the reason why "vegans are so annoying". We don't give a crap about what YOU do - but we want to stand in for the victims that can't make themselves be heard. I hope this makes it easier to understand our motives and why we feel the moral obligation to act on them.

Have a good one!

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I could lay out an argument that supporting religion means you support slavery and crusades.

I'm not going to engage your false utopia. Human brains literally developed from agriculture and cattle farming. Reality is meat consumption is a need for the majority of the planet and beyond an individual consumers' responsibility to solve.

You choose to live on each day despite knowing you will consume and pollute inherently, yet seek to criticize the choices of others?

[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 7 months ago

Human brains literally developed from agriculture and cattle farming

If if this was true, this doesn't prove that it is still necessary or even beneficial today. Humans did a lot of things in the past that would be seen as strange today (you already mentioned crusades for example). It does not follow that, just because "we did it in the past" means we still need to do it today.

meat consumption is a need for the majority of the planet

I don't fully agree. Please give me circumstances where there would be a NEED for this.

[–] stiephel@feddit.de 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A truly unpopular opinion, congratulations

[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

And at some point in the future, it will be truly popular! 😁

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Are you suggesting we start keeping human women on farms to milk them? Do you really want to go to the store and buy a bottle of breast milk to pour over your cereal?

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Soy milk is better alternative. If you don't like the taste, try coconut milk, oat milk, almond milk, cashew milk, etc.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If I use milk in anything it's usually oat milk, but I still like things like cheese and ice cream sometimes

[–] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are vegan versions of those too, they're just less common.

[–] stiephel@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's no good vegan alternative to cheese. I tried a couple and they all taste like shit.

[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

My honest tip would be: Just forget that something like cheese even existed and eat something else. Even I (as a full time vegan) don't really like the "cheese" we have - but since I just don't eat anything "cheese-like" anymore, I'm really not bothered to be honest.

[–] experbia@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

smh, this just kicks the can down the road. almond milk is for baby almonds. and what are the lil newborn coconuts gonna drink? cashews will actually die if they don't have the proper milk in the first few weeks.

I have nipples. Will you milk me?

[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Do you really want to go to the store and buy a bottle of breast milk to pour over your cereal?

But... that is EXACTLY what people are doing?! 🤷 Maybe not from a human, but still from a mother.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The lactose intolerant agree with you

[–] stiephel@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] maxmalrichtig@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

It's too late!

*sound of black hole sucking you up*

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago

Lactaid brand milk work?

[–] Obonga@feddit.de 5 points 7 months ago

Cows, like we have bred, should not exist in the first place. Its a cruelty to have such big udders and while cows can live up to 15 years most milk cows will live to the age of 5-6 because they are used like bio-machines, getting bred and sucked dry all through their short, miserable lives. "But dairy cows can be happy". Sure man, just like the people in the mines and sweatshops...

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I guess you haven't seen a cow in your life.

Cows need to be milked to stay healthy, because they will still produce milk after her calf is weaned.

[–] amzd@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

They don’t need to be impregnated in a rape rack though

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