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[–] HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 70 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Meanwhile the quest actually has apps, and is pcvr compatible

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

On the bright side speaking of VR, Sony realized they fucked up with the PSVR2 and announced it will get PCVR support this year

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 10 points 8 months ago

sony has the problem that they only have soo many developers in house and cannot sustain a library by themselves in a closed garden. they have really good engineering talent for hardware but not enough game devs, and relying on 3rd party game devs to work on a closed platform where it required a 500$ console ontop of a 600$ device would hurt it in the running.

PCVR has thr fact that the platform is open to small indie devs wanting to mess around with stuff and most of us assume that the market is never closing for another device. Quest has the advantage that its the most popular VR platform (e.g 20M quest 2 have sold, which is a lot) and doesnt require you to buy a PC/Console to play with it.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

you can't compare the 3rd generation of a product to something that has been out for one month. also not that I am an apple fanboy, but visionos had 600 apps on release day, not including the thousands of ipad apps, which has now gone up to 1000 iirc. futhermore, vision pro has alvr

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

LMAO someone's got buyer's remorse

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

i dont have the money for a vision pro in the first place, im just an enthusiast in the space. i dont fangirl for big tech in general

[–] lelgenio@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i dont fangirl for big tech in general

Then what is this post? It's an Apple ad in shitpost clothing.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

i mean if you think its an ad then go ahead

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I interpreted it as making fun of Apple's marketing that people will wear it during IRL group activities

And it's obvious that a product that costs 7x more in a competitive space would be better, so it's not really stretching the truth to say that people will want it more

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Didn't the first Quest have more games than the VPro does? Also the Quest runs basically every Android app available which comes out to over 3 million IIRC.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the vision pro isn't made for gaming while quest is, its not a fair comparison. Also yes, a quest can run any android app, but there is no native app store so everything has to be side loaded one by one, compared to apple that has the app store

[–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 27 points 8 months ago

Eh, I'd rather have good games and have to sideload normal apps than have basically no games and not be able to sideload at all.

[–] shoop@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I enjoyed your post, don't think it's an ad or anything, but I wanted to say I don't think it's a good argument to say a 3rd generation product can't be compared to a new product. A new product line is not created in a vacuum, it has the opportunity to learn from all previously released product lines.

If we were to say you can't compare them, consider this example: should a new TV company product be as good or better than a TV made just 3 years ago? Or would you say "you have to compare this tv to the first generation of all TV's?"

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the originally commenter said "at least it has games and pcvr support" in this case its both wrong, and unfair anyway

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not wrong and not unfair. The AVP can't connect to a gamng PC and be used for full fidelity VR, and it has basically no games, nor the controller support necessary for high quality games to come to it in the future.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

its not meant for games at all, its a productivity device first and foremost, but you also didn't read my other comments where I clearly say it can

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If it's not meant for games, it's 100% fair to say it has no games.

[–] HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's fair, my biggest qualm with it is the price/per value.

I could buy a valve index, a vr capable computer, a quest 3, and a steam deck, for the price.

As for your alvr point, you still need vr controllers to play most vr games.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you can sync up playspaces so the controllers aren't a problem, but the price is fair I guess. they couldn't have really made it much cheaper without sacrificing a tonne. the displays are apparently $700 alone?

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

but the price is fair I guess. they couldn't have really made it much cheaper without sacrificing a tonne

Stop being a fan boi of a trillion dollar monopolistic corporation.

"The price is fair I guess"? You can buy SEVEN quests for the price of a vision pro.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So there are 2 overpriced headsets

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

I could list a lot more

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

What an absurd assertion. Of course I can compare two products that are both on the market at the same time and fill the same niche.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it requires a Facebook account, right?

[–] Shah_of_Iran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No, I got one over the holidays and only had to make a meta account which doesn't automatically register you for Facebook

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Oh, perhaps it’s time to consider trying into VR then.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That is still similar ish then... I'll wait for VR that actually respects privacy.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 8 months ago

curse and blessing ahh software

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I just bought a quest 3 to go with my quest 2 so my wife and I can beat saber together.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Don't forget to get your child a Quest 1 so that they can learn Beat Saber too.

Why Quest 1? Because I miss the black color.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My wife put a hard no on VR for the kid until he's older.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The age of 13 is what is recommended by Meta (formerly Oculus, I have to mention this because I vastly prefer this name)

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Well that makes sense. Thank you.

[–] Abucketofpuppies@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Skipped the quest 2 and still holding out for the Quest 3 OLED model.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

There is a non-OLED model? Doesn't feel immersive enough if you ask me.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's a mod called Beat Together. It's cross platform too.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I'd rather have the Quest 3 and $3000 than spending $3500 on the Apple Vision.

"But Facebook etc"

My Facebook account is totally unused other than for the headset has no real personal information, no CC#'s, etc. they're tracking a ghost.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

Facebook indeed uses ghost profiles until they can link it to a name somewhere.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I imagine this will be the next iteration of the spoiled child stereotype. I think the most recent one was about a car that was the wrong color? It was otherwise exactly what they wanted but it was just painted a different color than what they wanted? I forget. Either way, the meltdown was fun to watch.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago

well its apple of course fanboys fanboy over any apple product instead of thinking what they should reasonably buy

[–] ShadowFox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I thought we banned AI "art"...

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

this has become kind of a meme, I guess that justifies it?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

12 looks just like you.

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