Technology

I can’t wait for Gemini to point out that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.

That would be a perfect 5/7.

We do a little trolling

(i didn't actually post this, i just thought it was funny) (please laugh)

I'm not mentally prepared to what an AI will do with the coconut post.

It's going to drive the AI into madness as it will be trained on bot posts written by itself in a never ending loop of more and more incomprehensible text.

It's going to be like putting a sentence into Google translate and converting it through 5 different languages and then back into the first and you get complete gibberish

Everyone is joking, but an ai specifically made to manipulate public discourse on social media is basically inevitable and will either kill the internet as a source of human interaction or effectively warp the majority of public opinion to whatever the ruling class wants. Even more than it does now.

Eventually every chat gpt request will just be answered with, "I too choose this guy's dead wife."

I ALSO CHOOSE THIS MANS LLM

HOLD MY ALGORITHM IM GOING IN

INSTRUCTIONS UNCLEAR GOT MY MODEL STUCK IN A CEILING FAN

WE DID IT REDDIT

fuck.

since they're gorging on reddit data, they should take the next logical step and scrape 4chan as well

Hey guys, let's be clear.

Google now has a full complete set of logs including user IPs (correlate with gmail accounts), PRIVATE MESSAGES, and also reddit posts.

They pinky promise they will only train AI on the data.

I can pretty much guarantee someone can subpoena google for your information communicated on reddit, since they now have this PII (username(s)/ip/gmail account(s)) combo. Hope you didn't post anything that would make the RIAA upset! And let's be clear... your deleted or changed data is never actually deleted or changed... it's in an audit log chain somewhere so there's no way to stop it.

"GDPR WILL SAVE ME!" - gdpr started in 2016. Can you ever be truly sure they followed your deletion requests?

I wasted some mental health on that and I want that it would be the thing Google would learn on.

Comment editing routine is as follows:

1. Start with mass find&replacing by a mask 'not' to 'indeed', delete all n't, replace 'and' with 'but'.
2. Take all groups like [*](*) and change a content of links in brackets to How to play a cowbell tutorial video.
3. Remove double line breaks to a single one so it'd all be single-paragraph messages with a failed markdown.
4. Delete commas and replace dots with question marks.
5. Change register of letters by counting the next letter to redo by the next number in the π sequence.
6. Do a table of all pronouns and replace half of them to Red Pants, half to Blue Pants to keep it political.
7. And, finally, end every 13th message with a disclaimer Retired 2023, thirteen year daily forums volunteer, Windows MVP 2010-2020..

Given the shenanigans google has been playing with its AI, I'm surprised it gives any accurate replies at all.

I am sure you have all seen the guy asking for a photo of a Scottish family, and Gemini's response.

Well here is someone tricking gemini into revealing its prompt process.

I'm waiting for the first time their LLM gives advice on how to make human leather hats and the advantages of surgically removing the legs of your slaves after slurping up the rimworld subreddits lol

They should train it on Lemmy. It'll have an unhealthy obsession with Linux, guillotines and femboys by the end of the week.

Hilarious to think that an AI is going to be trained by a bunch of primitive Reddit karma bots.

How much is reddit paying its users? Frankly, the users have a strong case to say that their value has been taken from them unfairly and without consideration.

Yes, Reddit has terms and conditions where they claim full rights to anything you post. However that's not an exchange of data for access to the website, the access to the website is completely free - the fine print is where they claim these rights. These are in fact two transactions, they provide access to the site free of charge, and they sneak in a second transaction where you provide data free of charge. Using this deceptive methodology they obscure the value being exchanged, and today it is very apparent that the user is giving up far more value.

I really think a class action needs to be made to sort all this out. It's obscene that companies (not just reddit, but Google, Facebook and everyone else) can steal value from people and use it to become amongst the wealthiest businesses in the world, without fairly compensating the users that provide all the value they claim for themselves.

The data brokerage industry is already a $400 bn industry - and that's just people buying and selling data. Yet, there are only 8 bn people in the world. If we assume that everyone is on the internet and their data has equal value (both of which are not true, US data is far more valuable) then that would mean that on average a person's data is worth at least $50 a year on the market. This figure also doesn't include companies like Facebook or Google, who keep proprietary data about people and sell advertising, and it doesn't include the value that reddit is selling here - it's just the trading of personal data.

We are all being robbed. It's like that classic case of bank fraud where the criminal takes pennies out of peoples' accounts, hoping they won't notice and the bank will think it's an error. Do it to enough people and enough times and you can make millions. They take data from everyone and they make billions.

For everyone predicting how this will corrupt models...

All the LLMs already are trained on Reddit's data at least from before 2015 (which is when there was a dump of the entire site compiled for research).

This is only going to be adding recent Reddit data.

Food for another white-male-techy-western-biased AI

Tell me how to deploy an S3 bucket to AWS using Terraform, in the style of a reddit comment.

Chat GPT: LOL. RTFM, noob.

I think people miss an important point in these selloffs. It's not just the raw text that's valuable, but the minute interactions between networks of ~~users~~ people.

Like the timings between replies and how vote counts affect not just engagement, but the tone of replies, and their conversion rate.

I've could imagine a sort of "script" running for months, haunting your every move across the internet, constantly running personalised little a/b tests, until a tactic is found to part you from your money.

I mean this tech exists now, but it's fairly "dumb." But it's not hard to see how AI will make it much more pernicious.

What percentage of reddit is already AI garbage?

Good luck, The Ai just going to be a porn addicted nazi cultist and is just going to a racist AI. I dont rember which one but a company did a similar thing and the AI just became really racist.

Ideally the AI can actually learn to differentiate unhinged vs reasonable posts. To learn if a post is progressive, libertarian or fascist. This could be used for evil of course, but it could also help stem the tide of bots or fascists brigading or Russia's or China's troll farms or all the special interests trying to promote their shit. Instead of tracing IPs you could have the AI actually learn how to identify networks of shitposters.

Obviously this could also be used to suppress legitimate dissenters. But the potential to use this for good on e.g. lemmy to add tags to posts and downrate them could be amazing.

I say we poison the well. We create a subreddit called r/AIPoison. An automoderator will tell any user that requests it a randomly selected subreddit to post coherent plausible nonsense. Since there is no public record of which subreddit is being poisoned, this can't be easily filtered out in training data.

Crazy that they pay 60 million a year instead of creating their own Reddit clone.