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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 36 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Recent hands-on experiments determined human feces cannot be made into frozen knives to dismember dogs” is the absolute most that a single sentence can be. The peak has been crested, literature can only stagnate from here.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This comes from a story Wade Davis told about an old Inuit hunter guy who killed a dog with a poop knife, skinned it, made a sled from its carcass and a harness from its hide and used another dog to ride into the sunset as a fuck you to his family who were trying to force him to retire.

The story has been thought to be bullshit by a lot of people. Wade Davis is a great writer though.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Wade got it from Peter Freuchen

Edit: Holy shit Wade Davis, from Wikipedia

In 1983, Davis first advanced his hypothesis that tetrodotoxin (TTX) poisoning could explain the existence of Haitian zombies.[10] This idea has been controversial and his 1985 follow-up book (The Serpent and the Rainbow) elaborating upon this claim has been criticized as containing scientific inaccuracies.[11] One is the suggestion Haitian witchdoctors can keep "zombies" in a state of pharmacologically induced trance for many years.[12] As part of his Haitian investigations, Davis commissioned the exhumation of a recently buried child.[13][14] (Dead human tissue is supposed to be a part of the "zombie powder" used by witchdoctors to produce zombies.) This has been criticized as a breach of ethics.[12][15]

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Ya. When you're reading psychedelic philosopher guys it's best to keep in mind that they might be completely full of shit and total whack-jobs. Much like a good acid trip, believe half of what you hear and none of what you see.

Terrance McKenna is another one.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For sale, baby shoes, poop knives can't dismember dogs.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

*For sale: baby poop knives, can't dismember dogs

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

*For sale: baby poop knives, can't dismember dogs' shoes.

[–] degen@midwest.social 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What are you, a researcher, or a quitter?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 16 points 8 months ago

OK, this is the take away. Never give up, never quit, don't let your shit knife be dreams!

[–] CyberCypress@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

I remember the 2018 Society for American Archaeology conference, everyone saw this paper title in the schedule and tried to go to the talk. Probably the most asked question that weekend besides "time for a beer?" was "did you see the poop knife talk?"

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Why is it always poop knives?

[–] TotalFat@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A semen sword would be too taxing?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Many hands make light work

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

Band name. Called it!

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 8 months ago
[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So this is from 2019 - hasn’t technology moved on ?

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They invented metal knives at some point. I don't even think walmart sells poop knives anymore.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Was this a common myth or something? There’s got to be a reason to test it

[–] Skua@kbin.social 31 points 8 months ago (6 children)

The paper's introduction actually does explain it:

In his book, Shadows in the Sun, Davis (1998: 20) recounts what is now arguably one of the most popular ethnographic accounts of all time:
“There is a well known account of an old Inuit man who refused to move into a settlement. Over the objections of his family, he made plans to stay on the ice. To stop him, they took away all of his tools. So in the midst of a winter gale, he stepped out of their igloo, defecated, and honed the feces into a frozen blade, which he sharpened with a spray of saliva. With the knife he killed a dog. Using its rib cage as a sled and its hide to harness another dog, he disappeared into the darkness.”

There's also the story of Danish explorer Peter Freuchen, who claims to have used his own frozen shit to make a chisel to dig himself out of some ice. The paper takes the time to say that it is strictly about knives, though, not chisels

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Did they experiment with composition of the poop? I expect it matters what you ate. I can see it not working if they were on a high fibre diet. They should try again after eating some sharp cheddar.

Sorry, I had to.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Looks at dog "now wear a shirt made from your buddy,and pull my sled made from your other buddy...." "We're off!"

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No way, explorers lying about their experiences? :O

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The "well known account" part sort of makes it clear it didn't happen to the explorer.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

From the ancient origins link above:

While the author Wade Davis admits the story could be “apocryphal”, he cited the autobiography of Peter Freuchen who claimed to have shaped his own feces into a frozen chisel to make his escape.

So he claimed he did it himself as well as saying he knew how to do it because of the "well known account". But also, anthropologists made shit up about the cultures they studied all the time, which is what I was actually referring to.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Does this mean it's still possible that a poop machete or poop katana is viable?

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

At least for one swing I don't see why not. I imagine your diet and coldness matters. Maybe more fiber makes it not be soo brittle?

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

I need to read this paper. Link?

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 1 points 8 months ago

This story was also told in a movie. I don't remember which one.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Some dude at the bar would not shut up about it and the scientist is not one to let some motherfucker just stand around being wrong.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

It wasn't able to create puncture wounds, only pooper cuts.

[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Well there goes that movie idea tosses script

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is true. You must use a petrified coprolite.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I once bought a coprolite for my dad as a present. He studied it for a long time before asking what it was. That was fun.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this Lemmys version of the poop knife?

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

You heard it here first, folks: on Lemmy, poop knife ~~cuts you~~ doesn't cut anything apparently.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Whereas I have been waiting to see that title to a paper for decades.

It's about fucking time.

[–] instamat@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The real question is do they work as dildos? Or is everything I believe about an Alaskan pipeline just a myth??

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Something about being brave enough comes to mind

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

or just gross enough

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Scientific progress in action.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Were they solid loafs they made into knives or was it liquid?

[–] Voran@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I can't stop laughing lmao

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

untrue. A guy cut off his arm with a knife of his own shit in the arctic.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I believe this is what they're trying to prove/refute.