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After Pricing Dragon’s Dogma 2 $70, Capcom Is Now Considering a Video Game Price Review - IGN (www.ign.com)
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[–] Crystal_Shards64@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The only games I've been paying full price for are games that I have been looking forward to for a very long time/games that I know for a fact I will 200% enjoy. Otherwise I'm waiting for steep sales of at least 50%, but usually more.

The only exception are Nintendo games because they rarely go on sale and when they do it's not a super amazing sale price. But because of that I buy way less Nintendo games and only buy the ones I absolutely know I'll enjoy. It's a lot more rare that I'll take a risk.

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Interesting to see so many people with this approach. I think it’s combination of high prices and some AAA duds. Any experienced customer is very wary these days.

I’m very similar. In my mind, I have : £10-20 = with a punt, £20-30 needs to be very well reviewed £30+ Needs to be THE ONE. Rarely more than one or two per years.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

I bought NFS heat for like 4 dollars before the new game came out. I'm not even really into racing games, but i played like 10 hours and had some fun with it. The new game came out and was like 79 bucks or something. It seemed pretty mid and was on sale at least twice already for 14 or so dollars. I don't know if i ever loce a game enough to pay full price. Maybe if it's some obline game and my friends want to play.

[–] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 6 points 9 months ago

I recommend buying second-hand Nintendo games. No reason not to, and you save lots of money

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much same here. I am a patient gamer, with very few exceptions. Like some Nintendo games, or something highly anticipated (like Helldivers 2 - though I had to postpone buying it)

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm an extreme patient gamer. I haven't bought a Nintendo/new Nintendo game in a decade. And if I wait long enough, they become remakes/bundles that I also don't buy! And by that time, their games used is super cheap!

Last year, I finally played through all of the Wii Zeldas.

And five years ago, played through all the N64/GAMECUBE/handheld Zeldas!

I can't wait to play Breath of the Wild in 2027.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Well, with the speed my backlog is increasing, I may reach your level in a few years. There are many games released in 2023 that I may not get around to playing before 2027. 😀

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

I, too, am a patient gamer, the last game I bought on release date was Child of Eden back over a decade ago.

console games, particularly the Nintendo ones can be a gamble, though, you have to find the sweet spot for the prices to not be going up again due to retro collectors

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is also the age of the B grade game packaged as a triple A. I've downloaded so many games that I play for 5 minutes before realizing it's yet another cheap platform side scroller or a top down, Diablo style game. I'm sick of it, especially cause many of them are charging AAA prices for these turds. Even if the games are ok, they're no more than $20 games packaged at full price.

Alien dark descent comes to mind, it's currently $60 CAD, but after playing it for 10 minutes I can tell you it's not worth more than $5

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I refuse to pay $70 for a game, especially with how many AAA flops we’ve seen, so I guess I’ll be replaying the first one again when this comes out.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, shouldn't we support the games that aren't a flop then? 😁

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I do make a few exceptions, but it’s based on the feedback of the preorder people. I played the hell out of Dark Arisen, so I’m sure I’ll fold sooner than later with this one.

I just don’t like this $70 trend, especially when most companies aren’t passing that profit to the people that actually make these games. I want Capcom to be different and stick to their words, but I’m always a skeptic.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Oh, yeah, no pre-orders. Even if buying game on launch, it's better to see the reviews before pulling the plug. Unless it's a studio with a great track record, like Zelda, or even Insomniac. Even then, you don't lose much by waiting 24-48 hours to get a good amount of critic and user reviews to get the gist of the game.

Unfortunately, I think $70 trend is going to stay. With inflation and the way economy is, everything is getting expensive, not to mention AAA games are costing a lot more these days, so it makes sense from that point of view. Now whether these multi-million / billion dollar companies can afford to keep making games at $60 (while still earning a profit), is a separate discussion...

[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And look at that, I'm now considering a video game price review as well, and I've concluded that $70 for a brand new AAA game is stupid and I won't pay that much for a half-asses AAA game.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What about for a AAAA game though?!?

[–] nitefox@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

*It’s actually AAA, the last A will come later in a paid dlc

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tsujimoto went on to argue that an economic slump wouldn't prevent people from purchasing pricier games. “Just because there’s a recession doesn’t mean you won’t go to the movie theater or go to your favorite artist’s concert. High-quality games will continue to sell,” he said.

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[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That chart shows a drop due to the pandemic shutdowns, and subsequent culture shift to faster (or day 1) home streaming releases.

If it were more closely related to recession, we'd see a noticeable drop in 2008 as well.

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What I see in this graph is a nosedive in 2020, then things getting normal in 2022 to 2023, and immediately going into nosedive again in the latter half of 2023 with the cost of living crisis.

Frankly, I wouldn't care if cinemas died out completely. Get much better sound and picture quality at home, anyway.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Avatar 2 is still one of the most successful films of all time. Barbie and Oppenheimer did well as well.

I think the main problem is that Hollywood doesn’t have that many big blockbuster franchises ongoing. There aren’t that many new movies that attract viewers. Superhero movies are finished. Star Wars is mostly TV now. Hollywood hasn’t managed to find any replacement for these franchises.

[–] Shurimal@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, Hollywood has become even more risk-averse than in the old days and boring. There used to be a new original Hollywood film coming out every month. Now all you have is reboots, rehashes and sequels. Avatar 2, Barbie and Oppenheimer are an exception. Even though technically Avatar 2 is a sequel and the Manhatten project has been covered very well before—the TV series Manhattan was exceptionally good and in 1989 there was Fat Man and Little Boy which was OK.

Netflix used to be the risk-taking innovator for a while (Okja, Birdbox) but that has died, too.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 2 points 9 months ago

And you don’t have to deal with assholes.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

There were almost no big theatrical first releases in 2023 besides the 2 big movies and that's because production had halted for much of the pandemic and was playing catchup.

If it were caused by the recession, I ask again why no noticeable dip in 2008?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

and subsequent culture shift to faster (or day 1) home streaming releases.

So what you're saying is that the graph supports my point counter to Tsujimoto's statement "Just because there’s a recession doesn’t mean you won’t go to the movie theater". People are going to the movie theater less in 2023.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're misusing causality. Fewer people go to the movies now because there's less reason to, not because they have less money.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fewer people go to the movies now because there’s less reason to, not because they have less money.

Feel free to show your data that supports your statement.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This chart

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fewer people go to the movies now because there’s less reason to

Where does that chart show proof of your statement?

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Why is there no dip for the 2008 Great Recession? There was no streaming alternative or pandemic then, and thus no dip.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Capcom:

Dragon's Dogma 2, which is scheduled for release this fiscal year, will be priced at $69.99. Industrywide development costs are rising, and we are considering a price review as one option. Ultimately, we intend to take a thoughtful approach in pricing our games while ascertaining user feedback.

Thoughtful approach in this case is taking the development cost into consideration and rising wages for workers (at least they state so). But yeah, the price is going to go up even more

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They could do what the supermarkets are doing: raise prices while blaming it on increased labor costs as they lay off workers and cut salaries.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah, that's what I would expect, too

[–] 520@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

Bruh the game dev market is abusive enough as is. Don't give them ideas.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Damn. I was excited for this game.

Oh well. I'll play in five-ten years I guess.

[–] Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Exactly what I wanted to say. See ya in 5 years on a steam sale.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Why do Capcom and most Japanese games have such bad character models? They always look last gen, and the humans look shitty and cartoony. I get a lot of excuses about how graphics aren't that important, but if you want my AAA money, put some damn effort in. Japanese games always look last gen.