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[–] minode@szmer.info 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Someone mentioned invoking GDPR's right to be forgotten. Although comments are not strictly personal information, it could still work. I think I'll try it soon.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think they can just restore all comments and bypass the GDPR, that would be insane. It's a very serious law in Europe.

[–] HawkMan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

they are your IP that you can rescind permission to publish at any time

[–] S4nvers@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think you should definitely try, but I don't think it'll work. According to this stackexchange question they could argue that deleting your comments would break the cohesiveness of the discussion and make the available information incomplete.

Art.17, 3a states that the right to be forgotten is not applicable if processing of the data is required to exercise freedom of information. So I don't think posts or comments are affected by the GDPR as long as they don't contain any information that would identify a user

[–] HawkMan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

deleting from a database isn't processing. It's literally what right to be gorhotten requires

[–] onceuponaban@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

So what you're saying is, mass-edit all your comments to contain your full name right before requesting deletion.

[–] MrAegis@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Reddits privacy policy itself states that you can use GDPR or California's CCPA and has instructions for invoking it (basically just sending them an email). https://www.reddit.com/policies/privacy-policy

[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Fuck. I really don't like this.

So many trauma and support subreddits get deeply personal and identifying posts and comments about horrific shit people (me included) lived through and were trying to cope with, which got deleted several hours after posting for privacy reasons.

If this content gets revived by reddit, it puts a lot of vulnerable people in danger as it this type of 'content' is often harvested by users of other platforms who share these stories with huge audiences.

[–] Ffkhrocks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So section 230 protects social media platforms regarding content users post.

If they reinstate a user deleted post who owns it?

Hoping this blows up in their faces as it's a really shitty course of action to take.

[–] Grimm@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I also don't think GDPR looks to kindly at this.

[–] Chewy12@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Legally, they are probably fine. They’ll delete your account and disassociate your comments from it if you ask and that likely has them covered.

[–] HawkMan@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

your post is your IP and you own the rights to it and the right to have them deleted.

https://www.dataprotection.ie/en/individuals/know-your-rights/right-erasure-articles-17-19-gdpr

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, that's a really interesting take! I wonder if there's even any precedent for this sort of thing...

[–] Tomthndsh@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Mine are back as well! WOW, talk about being a scummy company.

[–] animist@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would this be a GDPR violation? Serious question as I don't know

[–] LondonPilot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My belief is that no, it wouldn't - because the posts don't contain identifiable information about people. I'm not an expert, though, and I'd love for someone to come and correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: I just saw that @S4nvers gave a more detailed answer than me a bit lower down, essentially agreeing with me but quoting the relevant part of GDPR to explain why.

[–] xc2215x@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

That is really bad of Reddit.

[–] Trebach@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I sanitized all of my comments before I deleted them. They’re welcome to bring them back. it’s all just a protest message anyway. But for those who didn’t, this is really shitty.

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unedited messages were restored to my profile. You might want to check yours.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no profile to check-- i also deleted my account. but, like I said: I sanitized all of my comments first.

[–] HawkMan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Unless you sent them a gdpr request they have all your edit history saved

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are going into their database and restoring the original comments. No just un-deleting them. This is exactly why I left my account active.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

they don't retain comment edit history. they literally don't possess this capability-- it's a GDPR requirement.

it's possible that some of your comments were missed when you tried to sanitize them. i ran into this issue myself and had to re-run the sanitization script a few times to get all of my comments.

[–] Tomthndsh@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Google, ChatGPT, and all those language models are going to have a very hard time with this. People will change their old comments to random nonsense, so search results will that use Reddit will become random nonsense.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's more likely is there was a database syncing issue

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

More likely?

No what's more likely is that they want to show a lot of posts and comments in their statistics before they go public. They are trying to make the protests look like it's nothing.

[–] mephiska@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just deleted Apollo off my phone. I loved Apollo but I kept mindlessly opening it, I just can’t use Reddit anymore. I’m here now. I had a 17 year Reddit badge, but no more.

[–] orbitt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

RIF user here, and I had to move it off my home screen (replaced with Jerboa for Lemmy) but I still can't bring myself to delete it yet :(

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Might as well wait until it dies on July 1st.

[–] BoxOfSnoo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah me too. I added a block in my pi-hole setup to the whole Reddit domain. That may get removed later for search results reasons… maybe.

[–] Tomthndsh@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This will make Reddit worse. Some people will start to edit their comments to make them nonsense. Trust will erode further. Search will slowly become nonfunctional.
From a users perspective, coming across a nonsensical thread (because comments have been edited), is much worse than see deleted comments. Not only does trust disappear people, but people become angry that the comments are outright random/bizarre/lies.

[–] Warped@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This is turning into such a shit show. I can see some group deciding to do some form of attack on Reddit, just for shits and giggles.

When the api stops being freely accessed, loads of bots will stop. The only ones using Reddit will be ones they have created, and that will be interesting to see what rubbish they spout. I bet we will see one bot going on the rampage saying 'Spaz is wonderful'.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with GDPR for us EU users.

[–] Gamers_Mate@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Other then lemmy world is there any other instances we are connected to that I should know about? I am gonna add them to my old comments.

[–] Seathru@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

This is the first morning I haven't had any zombie comments pop back up on my account.

Funny thing I noticed was if I tried to edit my comments to "fuck you piss baby spez", it would log me out every few seconds and force me to log back in. But editing with random words worked fine. looks like they have some filtering set up to protect his ego lol.

Edit: I take that back. Now there's a bunch of year old, unedited, comments popped back up in there. Oh well, redact.dev goes brrrrrrr

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 0 points 1 year ago

That is why you never edit anything in your database, only save a new version of it so you always can have a paper trail back with all the edits. Same with deleting, you just mark it as deleted. This data is worth a lot of money, they'd be stupid if they let the users destroy it.

And yes it's against the GDPR and so on, but which one of us will sue them?

[–] Jezebelley@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why you use the edit THEN delete option in Power Delete Suite instead of just delete. All my restored comments will say "fuck you spez".

[–] sanjosanjo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Don't they keep a history of edits that you made? I thought I read that somewhere yesterday in a discussion about what they maintain.