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Killed if Ukrainian, Died if Palestinian

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[–] Afx@lemm.ee 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I read the BBC article it very conclusively blamed the israelis for her and the others deaths. Both the israelis and the Russians involved in either conflict are cunts...i don't need to worry about the semantics of the headlines to conclude this.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

If you don't need to worry about it why are they consistently using different language for israelis and Palestinians being killed?

Surely if it doesn't affect public opinion there would be no need for that.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

So did the WP story

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

Also it was the leading story on their TV channel where they made it very very clear that both she and the paramedics trying to get to her were killed by fire from Iranian tanks.

[–] Encode1307@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago (4 children)

If they wanted to "manufacture consent for genocide" they wouldn't have reported the story at all

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

These days it's done in a way more subtle way than that because people can just discover those things via social media and if they see it as not being reported they suspect the newsmedia for not doing it.

The manipulation (as exemplified above) is in the consistent use of language with different emotional charge and even the passive or active mode depending on the side (i.e. "the terrorists of Hamas killed x people" when the Hamas does the deed versus "x people died when a building was hit" when the IDF does the deed, this latter being very visibly in the example given here) as well as different levels of implied trust for each side (for example, consistently reporting "such has happenned" when the source is the IDF whilst reporting "the spokesperson of X said that such has happenned" when the source is Hamas).

If you're paying attention you will see this shit all over whenever a Newspaper or News Channel is activelly engaged in "opinion forming" as they use the very same differentiated treatment for controlling emotional impact techniques for just about everything, including local politics.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

That would make them seem too biased. They did that in the past but right now that's becoming too difficult as everyone is reporting on these massive stories.

There is a fine line to walk on "reporting on the Palestinian side" while using selective language.

You must have the feeling that you are informed without actually being informed.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 9 months ago

Headlines matter.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

By an amazing coincidence all of the 4 "major" Western news outlets cited are from nations whose governments have proclaimed "unwavering support for Israel" and where the locals have the least trust in the Press, in the World.

Maybe all those things are linked....

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 9 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure if it's manufactured consent or outright propaganda, at least for CNN:

They include tight restrictions on quoting Hamas and reporting other Palestinian perspectives while Israel government statements are taken at face value. In addition, every story on the conflict must be cleared by the Jerusalem bureau before broadcast or publication.

Imagine if every broadcast or publication about the war in Ukraine had to be cleared first with the Kremlin. It has a different ring to it when I put it like that, which means I have internalized some of the propaganda myself.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I subscribe to the WP so I looked up the article about Hind Rajab. The app won't let me copy/paste it but if you read the rest of the paragraph it definitely does say was killed as were two rescue workers

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The Twitter post definitely excludes every single mention of her and her family being killed by israel.


The website article makes zero mention of Hind being killed. It goes as far as excluding her from being killed and then saying "she was found dead".

Israeli troops were firing on the car, the teen said in terrified calls to relatives and emergency services. Everyone in the vehicle was killed except her and her 5-year-old female cousin, Hind, she said.

The family car was found as well with six bodies, including Layan’s and Hind’s.


it definitely does say was killed as were two rescue workers

This is also factually incorrect nowhere do they use the word killed for the ambulance personnel.

On Saturday, 12 days later, the ambulance was discovered, blackened and destroyed. The two medics were dead.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

They always report the facts but frame them emotionally starting with the headline. They don't need totalitarian control of the media, they only need to convince 5-10% to get total control. That's how propaganda and corruption works in democratic countries.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Killed if Ukrainian, Died if Palestinian

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (25 children)

I mean, people have a right to defend themselves. I would just say all coercive violence is wrong, no matter what form it takes.

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[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

There’s no outrage like manufactured outrage.

[–] Shenanigore@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You'd almost think someone runs the media

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