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US President Joe Biden has suggested that Israel’s military response in Gaza has been “over the top” and said he is seeking a “sustained pause in the fighting” to help ailing Palestinian civilians.

“I’m of the view, as you know, that the conduct of the response in the Gaza Strip has been over the top,” Biden told reporters at the White House.

He added that he had been pushing for a deal to normalise Saudi Arabia-Israel relations, increased humanitarian aid for Palestinian civilians and a temporary pause in fighting to allow the release of hostages taken by Hamas.

“I’m pushing very hard now to deal with this hostage ceasefire,” Biden said. “There are a lot of innocent people who are starving, a lot of innocent people who are in trouble and dying, and it’s gotta stop.”

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[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He says all that, but as long as the US is enthusiastically funding the Israeli military, nothing is going to improve.

[–] narp@feddit.de 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The funding needs to stop and another main objective should be to get Netanyahu out of office and in a jail cell, otherwise he will just continue, even if sanctioned.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

in a jail cell

I prefer death penalty, no imaginable thing in the world can punish him for what he has done, but we should try our best. Controversial I know, but imagine if you were a Palestinian or know someone close who was, would you believe jailing him is fair? He would be out in a few months probably as well, and the jail cell would just be a quarantine in a palace or something like that

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel has enough stockpiles to carry on regardless. If Biden were to have a moment of clarity and end the deals it would give other nations the opportunity to do something similar though.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Israel can carry on in the short term, but sure as hell not in the long term. Apartheid is inherently unsustainable, so Israel needs the rest of the world in its back in one way or another to keep Palestinians down.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well if they finish (the genocide) it quick, it won’t be a problem

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Apartheid is inherently unsustainable

How long have they been sustaining it for though?

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Israel has had consistent international funding since its invention. US aid alone is like 25% of their military budget.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Good thing he wasn't the president during WW2!

He'd have told the nazis "hey, please cool it guys! You're going a bit overboard!" and then sent them a lot of weapons and money on behalf of his owner donors.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know I'm starting to think this Hitler guy is not the valuable ally he seemed to be. Better wait a few months and try to nudge him in the right direction in the meantime.

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Lol if anyone here is saying that the US government in WW2 acted quicker than Biden is now, it's important to note that the US waited 2 years to join WW2.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Probably not so good an approach in retrospect. I wonder how many Jews were killed in that time

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago

Honestly wonder if we even would have entered Europe if Hitler didn't declare war on us

[–] Diotima@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You know what else is over the top, you evil old fuck? Cutting off 350 million in aid to refugees because Israel lied and claimed relief workers were HAMAS.

Biden is banking on his sycophants taking him at his utterly worthless word.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I'll take "No shit" for 500, Alex.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ty for warning.... Not clicking that.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's not super graphic. Just a video of the IDF drone striking an ambulance 1-2 days ago. No visible blood.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It really doesn't show anything graphic. It looks like a mortar or something hits the street right in front of an ambulance. But it cuts away so fast that you can't tell what is going on.

[–] skhayfa@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

A bit much I would say

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


US President Joe Biden has suggested that Israel’s military response in Gaza has been “over the top” and said he is seeking a “sustained pause in the fighting” to help ailing Palestinian civilians.

He added that he had been pushing for a deal to normalise Saudi Arabia-Israel relations, increased humanitarian aid for Palestinian civilians and a temporary pause in fighting to allow the release of hostages taken by Hamas.

The remarks, some of Biden’s sharpest public criticism to date of the government of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, come as the Democratic president has come under increasing domestic pressure to press Israel to stop fighting.

In the aftermath of Israel’s initial attacks, Biden was criticised for making remarks describing the death of innocent Palestinians as “the price of waging a war.”

Saudi Arabia has told the US there will be no diplomatic relations with Israel unless an independent Palestinian state is recognised on the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem, and Israeli “aggression” on the Gaza Strip stops, its foreign ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.

Explaining his response to the crisis, Biden appeared to mix up the details of his diplomatic efforts, calling Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi the leader of Mexico.


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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Biden is such a dull piece of shit, my god. You guys really need to get rid of this walking corpse and get someone else to run against Trump.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lots of options but none of them could beat Biden in a primary and potentially not beat Trump in a general.

You may not like Biden but he's preferable to the alternative.

[–] Diotima@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The sad day when the "good" choice "only" supports a systematic ethnic cleansing campaign, in deed if not in speech.

Biden is entirely beatable, but it would take Democrats stepping up and nominating a candidate that wasn't the equivalent of soggy toast.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is there a person who could realistically be president that would have resulted in the US cutting off support for Israel after October?

[–] Diotima@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

Realistically is more or less encoded "without ending the collusion between Democrats and Republicans." As it stands, the system is designed to reinforce their duopolistic control... and their followers, more concerned with winning than with fundamental human rights, allow it to continue.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Man Biden has a campaign to abandon him (and depending on who you ask vote for Trump) among Michigan Muslims, a critical and traditionally democrat-voting demographic in a battleground state. And he's losing the young voters who won him 2020 by the minute. With the way things are going Trump has the advantage with his fanatically loyal voter base.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We'll see how it shakes out. The democrats have overperformed in every election since 2018. I don't think Biden being old or Netanyahu doing a genocide will change the opinion of suburban voters who want abortion access

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

suburban voters who want abortion access

I mean yeah those people are probably going to vote, but Biden needs all his voter demographics to vote for him to win. His win depends on maintaining the house of paper that is the democratic voter base, so he can't afford to have two of those papers pulled out from under him. I'm not saying he'll certainly lose, but the current attitude that Biden has this in the bag even with his genocide is very much wrong.