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[–] gennygameshark@lemmy.world 113 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Ubisoft needs to get comfortable with the idea of people not buying their games then 😝

[–] cypherix93@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago

you mean renting πŸ¦–

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think they already are. That's kind of the point of that guy's job.

[–] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I haven't even needed to pirate a game in decades. Does it still work the same way?

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[–] WallEx@feddit.de 77 points 7 months ago (9 children)

From my understanding theft has always been to take something and after the other party doesn't have it anymore. This never applied to piracy.

For example: I used to pirate games back in school as I didn't have the money to buy them. So there is no financial loss for the company. Yet they still frame it as bank robbery or something. "You wouldn't download a car"

[–] Klicnik@sh.itjust.works 63 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I would download so many cars.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

Back when I played GTA 4 I DID download so many cars.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hollywood was so adamant about "not downloading a car".

Now they are the ones downloading actors.

[–] martino@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Hollywood was so adamant about "not downloading a car".

That was a meme. The original ads were always "you wouldn't steal a car". Someone doctored a screenshot from the ad as a joke and now there are a whole bunch of people who think the ads actually said that.

[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Thepiratebay guy made an art project at one point that was a Raspberry Pi that did nothing but copy one song over and over again while keeping a running tally on a display of how much value it had "stolen" from the record industry by doing so.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

β€œYou wouldn’t download a car”

I not only would, I did!

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 76 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I am the guy who started this meme! Praise me!

[–] le_throosh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 7 months ago

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[–] Frozzie@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

You are a genius πŸ™

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Next year Ubisoft is complaining how people start a subscription just before the holiday and cancel after the holiday, with people playing dozens of games in a short period. This destroys their cash flows and shows great disrespect for the developers.

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

The developers are already paid, and they only do what they are told to do.

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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

If I had a penny for every time I saw this quote decontextualised. I'd have enough to buy a Ubisoft game.

Which is kinda sad that it's been that often.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Too bad you won't own it after buying it!

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thank you Valve

(For the Gamers reading. I am making reference to the fact that steam has already got gamers used to not owning their games)

[–] Pogbom@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Listen, I'm super smart and I definitely know what the right context is, but could you explain it for our dumber friends here?

[–] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The exec said that in order for subscription gaming to be profitable, then customers would have to be okay with not owning their games. It was posed more of a hypothetical instead of a sinister plan. Now would they prefer subscription model? Absolutely. Do they expect it to work rn? The exec doesn't think so.

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[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 7 months ago

It sounds like they are saying get comfortable with piracy. How else would you want to play a game without owning it?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Copyright itself was never ownership to begin with, and ideas were never property. Copyright is nothing more than a means an end, with the end being to enrich the Public Domain. It exists for the express purpose "to Promote the Progress of Science and the Useful Arts" and nothing else.

This is the moral basis for the Copyright Clause, in Thomas Jefferson's own words:

It has been pretended by some (and in England especially) that inventors have a natural and exclusive right to their inventions; & not merely for their own lives, but inheritable to their heirs. but while it is a moot question whether the origin of any kind of property is derived from nature at all, it would be singular to admit a natural, and even an hereditary right to inventions. it is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. by an universal law indeed, whatever, whether fixed or moveable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property, for the moment, of him who occupies it; but when he relinquishes the occupation the property goes with it. stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society. it would be curious then if an idea, the fugitive fermentation of an individual brain, could, of natural right, be claimed in exclusive and stable property. if nature has made any one thing less susceptible, than all others, of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an Idea; which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the reciever cannot dispossess himself of it. it’s peculiar character too is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. he who recieves an idea from me, recieves instruction himself, without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, recieves light without darkening me. that ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benvolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point; and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement, or exclusive appropriation. inventions then cannot in nature be a subject of property. society may give an exclusive right to the profits arising from them as an encouragement to men to pursue ideas which may produce utility. but this may, or may not be done, according to the will and convenience of the society, without claim or complaint from any body.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, mic drop.

Also, is that Jefferson's original capitalization? I never would have figured him for the type to think he's too cool for normal capitalization rules.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also, is that Jefferson’s original capitalization? I never would have figured him for the type to think he’s too cool for normal capitalization rules.

Here's a picture of it (the first page, anyway, which isn't the same as the part I quoted). It appears that he, indeed, wasn't in the habit of capitalizing the first word of sentences. 'Course, it was so long ago that I'm not sure if it really was a normal rule at the time (especially for handwritten correspondence, as opposed to typeset publications).

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[–] Foni@lemm.ee 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I understand the slogan and why it is used, but I have never had any moral qualms about pirating the intellectual property of a billion-dollar corporation, call me weird.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

You're weird.

I agree with you completely, just complying with your request.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Basically when it comes to streaming services, what are you paying for? You aren't getting anything except temporary access that can be revoked at any time. What the slogan is saying is pretty simple in that regard: if we aren't buying anything but access, then you aren't stealing when sailing the seas

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

I completely agree, what I'm saying is that even if I could actually buy it, or when this was possible, I would still not have ethical problems with "sailing the seas" nor do I think anyone should have those problems, I say again, the intellectual property belongs to billion-dollar companies

[–] Jknaraa@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago

Eh... piracy wasn't theft even before this, because you're not taking it away from someone else.

[–] LittleBorat2@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yes please ubisoft make another generic assassin's creed game that is like all the others and charge me for it on a subscription based model.

This simulation of a simulation of a game is as important as office365 with teams at least.

I think they have a solid business case there, congrats ubi.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 7 months ago

"commies don't want you to even own your toothbrush"

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Ubisoft needs to "get comfortable" with gamers not giving them any money.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You want to really own your game, not just a license, buy on gog. Not on Steam, not on Epic, not on uplay and whatever else.

Why is everyone so pissed at Ubisoft, they just say what's practise for years now! And sometimes counter Ubisoft by quoting Gabe Newell, what the fuck? He made not owning games popular!

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

There's a big difference between having to pay a monthly subscription to play a game and just having to use steam to launch it after a one time payment.

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[–] Surp@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I mean Ubisoft doesn't make good games who gives a shit.

[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I like game pass as an option for playing games that I don't want to spend $60 on. But I also want the option to own it forever.

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[–] mintdaniel42@futurology.today 6 points 7 months ago

Then they should aswell

[–] CCF_100@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Shouts at Ubisoft exec: "Then I'll just pirate all your games! Fuck you, Ubisoft!"

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Looks like late stage capitalism is taking away people's right to personal property.

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