But why would they? They're going to fake the election result anyway. Wouldn't it look better for propaganda reasons to have at least some opposing candidates?
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Wouldnβt it look better for propaganda reasons to have at least some opposing candidates?
Yes, that's why propaganda talk shows there always have a guest with a somewhat critical tone. Obviously that one always loses the debate.
They saw how it ended in Belarus in 2020 and don't wanna repeat.
Belarus just had a popular position candidate for presidential elections. When the results were shown it ended up in huge protests in the country, which very well might have removed Lukashenka from power. The reason they did not was Putin sending his troops to crush it.
If you have something similar in Russia today, you have the army fighting in Ukraine, the economy is in a dumpster fire, Ukraine and the West are going to help the protestors and there is nobody to march in and crush the protests. In addition to that the number of different armed groups in Russia has increased a lot and chances are some are unhappy with Putin. Wagner marched on Moscow after all.
So best choice is to not have an election at all. However that chance is gone now. Calling it off would make Putin look like he knows he would loose. So he has to fake it and the best way to do it is to have no actual competitor, who could win besides him.
The thing about this is that despite how well Putin's iron fist is clenched around the neck of Russia, one fatal mistake and you'll see Moscow burn, oligarchs and their children murdered in their homes, ranks falling apart, etc.
People have their limits, and when reached, expect Molotov cocktails to be thrown around like confetti at a wedding.
So you're saying they're affraid someone might release the real election results?
I'm saying they have to maintain a veneer of authenticity, even if it's an open lie. At some point, when everything is apparent to everyone, people will just snap. That's literally what happened when the USSR was founded.
Putin may wax poetic about the USSR, but he knows what happens when those balaclavas come back on and when active terrorist insurrection groups start forming.
So he needs to pretend that votes count, because no matter how well he seized up the police, the military, even the criminal underworld, if even just β of those groups start conspiring, it's likely to have a snowball effect.
Because if you make it too obvious youβll have the fourth Russian revolution in the last 120 years.
October revolution in 1905 to remove a lot of power from the czars, one in 1917 to completely remove the czars from government, another in 1917 to put the Bolsheviks in power and lead to the Soviet Union. Who knows what would happen were the current populace to overthrow Putins sham democracy
Who knows what would happen were the current populace to overthrow Putins sham democracy
Zombie Thatcher and Reagan take over Russia.
We should pitch their corpses into that Siberian hell pit that gets brought up occasionally
I dunno, I'd be worried that would be the thing that reanimated them...
No, presidential elections in Russia traditionally follows Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs plot where The Great Liderβ’ should look much better, much saner and much younger than everyone else.
I wonder what would happen if the 100 000 deceased individuals were to show up in person at the central election comission
Their status could be swiftly adjusted?
From dead on paper to just dead?
Why not both?
Lol "we gotta get your paperwork right before pushing you out the window. See igor on the first floor and Vlad on the 5th."
Of course they can. They don't even need it to be true.
Seems like a show to give election at least some appeal of legitimacy.
I wonder how he isnt fell out from a window already
So, Navalny 2018 all over again