Why do they care so much? Why? I want to ask them to show me on the doll where the trans person hurt them.
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It's not that they got hurt.
It's that fascism is an engine of hatred that burns minorities for power.
Think about bullies: they aren't attacking people who hurt them; they're attacking people to make themselves seem dominant.
You have a good point, but I'd like to add that the group mentality is probably different from what a single bully would do or feel.
I think that this comes from these people being scared of not fitting in and from not having anything in common with the other people who don't fit it, so instead of uniting for a common goal, they can only find unity in being against something that they have in common not being. That's why they attack minorities of all kinds.
It also explains the hypocrisy. The individual isn't afraid of abortions, homosexuals or mexicans. Sometimes they need to accept those on an individual level, but they still go along with the anti-politics because it's not about themselves personally.
Facism isn't just based on simple hatred. It's mostly based on fear of not fitting in, because the individual is well aware of their own not fitting in.
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To them, it’s “icky” and “weird”. Therefore, it must be WRONG.
Sadly, I don’t think that’s an oversimplification. For them, it really is just that simple.
Probably, but I think there's also a big element of "God hates you because my minister said so" or whatever.
Because we’re the enemy. We’re different and bad and we make them uncomfortable so we must be why they’re unhappy and why their lives aren’t what they thought they should be
That is the plain truth, that some would literally and without hesitation hurt and even kill complete strangers without cause -- and then call it holy -- rather than look inside and deal with their own shadow.
I am legitimately terrified for you, and for everyone not white/cis/het right now. I mean, I'm terrified for all of us, because no one comes out of a shift into authoritarianism/fascism untouched, but I am especially frightened for those of us who have historically borne the reflection of miserable people's lives.
Nothing in this world is more wrong than denying entire classes of human beings the right to exist in peace.
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This is the part that I fail to comprehend either.
What is the worst thing that would happen if trans people have rights (including the right to just exist in society)?
A hate based ideology always needs an outgroup to discriminate against. It's really as simple as that.
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When it was making rules against gender-affirming care for children, at least they could hide behind the (ludicrously false) "we're protecting the children!" argument.
They can't even do that here. There is just no justification for this beyond either "god doesn't want this to happen" or just basic cruelty.
The cruelty has always been the point.
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It's a wedge issue. They incite hatred against their preferred minority (trans people in this case) and then score points with their voters by passing laws to harm that minority.
The real question here is why driver's licenses have a gender field; we can't sanely discuss questions about it (including why "they" care about this field so much) without answering this first.
Since the new Florida policy makes this harder, by raising the odds that a license does not match current records... I have no answer for you.
It makes more sense if you look at this as them needing a scapegoat.
Most people don't (or until very recently didn't) really understand what being transgender actually is all about.
This makes it really easy to fearmonger the general population, by painting their "lifestyle" as everything that is wrong with society.
And if you want to solve this issue.. well clearly you have to vote for them, because the other guys don't see the inherent dangers of transgenderism, now do they?
This is not anything inherent to being transgender. The scapegoat before this were homosexuals.
However society has progressed to the point where most people understand what homosexuality is, and accept (or at the very least tolerate) homosexuals existing as a part of society. It turns out they weren't pedophilic devil worshipers after all..
That will happen with transgender people too. People will learn, acceptance will grow.
And when it does, these cretins move on to the next minority group.
Bonus round: Replace "transgender" with "Jew" in the things I mentioned above, and see what that reminds you of.
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Wouldn't this come into conflict with REAL ID? Florida is currently REAL ID compliant.
Federal docs like your passport are used in verifying your REAL ID, and generally, the names need to match.
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In our small-brained baboon-butt red state of Utah, the "esteemed" legislatures just passed a bill making it illegal for trans people to use public bathrooms. I guess that means trans people can shit wherever they want to in public.
This kind of nutjob small brained bigotry is ruining our country and embarrasssing us gloablly. Other countries see these anti-human laws and realize we're crumbling and don't really stand behind our American "values" or our consitution.
This kind of nutjob small brained bigotry is ruining our country and embarrasssing us gloablly. Other countries see these anti-human laws and realize we're crumbling and don't really stand behind our American "values" or our consitution.
You would hope this is the case but in reality the right-wing nutjobs everywhere just copy/paste US culture war idiocy, usually even without making the slithest necessary adaption to make them fit.
There was a documentary on LGBT rights in I think Nigeria and they were showing an interview of the religious leader talking about why being gay was an abomination etc etc. along with a guy who was for those rights.
The religious leader, in a very thick African accent says, "It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve."
One of the points that the film was making was how conservative think tanks actually try to push their agenda outside of the US. Because you sure as hell know that religious leader didn't come up with that argument on their own.
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Just use the bathroom anyway and if they try to arrest you, just sue them and/or shoot them.
I would recommend nonviolent protest but these people don't care and thus can't be manipulated by such means
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So how is this law enforceable? Isn't the gender marker change through the state itself? I obviously assume they're going to stop providing the changes, but what about people who have already had it changed? Or is this meant to punish trans people from other states traveling to Florida?
Inevitably a cisgender woman who does not meet enforced standards of femininity will get arrested for this. Or trans men who have not changed their gender marker. Violence against queer people and cis women is the intention.
I can absolutely see someone with androgen insensitivity syndrome (female with XY chromosomes) getting thrown in jail for this.
I don't think the IDs need sex on them. A name, a picture, a number, birthday, height and what sort of vehicles you are licensed to operate.
If it's that divisive, remove the field. I do not have a women's driving permit, I can drive the same things my husband can, it's not used for anything related to its function. A picture gives more information on identity, then if someone transitioned they could go get a new one and it would identify them correctly.
Like if my banking doesn't require a gender to make a transaction why should my driver's license.
Next up: Florida creates Women's Driving Permit, only pink vehicles and engines below 120cc. Men on the other hand need a vehicle greater than 150cc with a hood high enough to no longer need to see children, as that is women's business.
Doesn't have to just be gender, trans people often change their name too as part of the transition. Also sex =/= gender
The article specifically mentions changing the gender and nothing about name. Lots of people get name changes for various reasons, but it’s a whole process.
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This doesn't even make sense from an administrative standpoint. The purpose of government identification is identification. If I can't update my driver's license to make me easier to identify then the entire purpose of having a gender on the ID card is moot
It gives cops an excuse to arrest (and beat up) trans people on charges of false ID.
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Oh absolutely, it's just meant to out us to every cop that sees our ID so they can decide to ruin our day. They won't actually admit that, though.
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Another proud moment for Christianity
I think the most pertinent question these days is why is sex listed on a drivers licence anyway? If it's referring to phenotype why does anyone I give my ID to need to know what genitals are in my smallclothes? If it's referring to chromasomal makeup why the hell is that relevant to the guy at the liquor store?
If it refers to gender then the consideration becomes that you can't always intuit gender from presentation so that's hardly good at creating any benefit for visual identification.
ID is an issue in general for non-binary people. Here in Canada your passport and licence have to match but getting an X gender marker on your passport means your documents have a solid opportunity to subject you to travel discrimination and whether or not that ID will even be accepted abroad becomes a serious and sometimes peicemeal question.
The question of "should we allow changes of sex on identifying documents" is kind of missing the point. We should be talking total abolition of registration of sex on drivers licences.
I have always wondered the same. Why does gender matter? Why is race sometimes included in documents?
It all feels very much like 19th Century thinking where the place and date of production are the most important aspects of your being.
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WTF?!
Ok, this is obvious, but this is just messed up.
Conservatives can all go fuck themselves.
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