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In the current spectrum, how much should one spend to get the best value? I know everyone has a different taste and budget. But analysing the current trend of smartphone culture could give a bit of insight into spending wisely.

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[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

These questions are so exhausting.

How much does a car cost?

Look, you have to figure out what you need and what you can afford and then research it.

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Divide the total cost by how many years of OS updates are given by the manufacturer.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This, plus make sure it's hardware security updates too, and not just OS updates. Some disenguious vendors like to confuse the two terms in their favor. I.e. fair phone.

[–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could you please elaborate what you mean by saying “hardware security updates”?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 9 months ago

Security updates from the hardware vendor. Classically Qualcomm and their system on a chip driver security patches.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

the fairphone 5 gets 10 years of Security Updates by Qualcom and around 8 Years of Software Updates

don't know what you're trying to show here

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm illustrating the window of Qualcomm soc security updates is smaller than the advertised fairphone updates window.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

right, but FP took a industrial Chip instead of a Phone Chip because that industrial Chip has that extended Support

or did you learn something i didn't?

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[–] kuneho@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I thought maybe if I buy flagship Samsungs, I won't have those problems I had with Xiaomis, unpredictable bugs, slowing down, also maybe Samsungs have better build quality...

tho I don't have those and yeah, much better build quality, my Note 20 Ultra still had issues where warranty replaced almost the whole phone - after one year. My Fold 4 cracked its own inner screen by the peeling off screen protector, which costed me with a one time offer around 150USD. Again, in one year after buying.

the price don't matter. it's just pure luck at this point.

I used to buy phones for around 150USD. tho this trend of mine was only possible 5-10 years ago.

My BlackBerry Z10 and Z30 costed me this much, and those were the best smartphones I ever had and will have.

after this Fold 4, no idea what will I get, but I hope for several more years, this won't be an issue.

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My advice would be to stay away from smsung

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

Samsung seems to be failing in almost every consumer sector they’re in. Their appliances in particular are being dropped by stores across Canada because the chains don’t want to deal with the tsunami of warranty issues that crop up.

I only wonder when this drop in quality will trickle down to their business-class products… I have a thing for their U.2 drives (dat DWPD goodness!) and ECC RDIMMs.

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[–] limerod@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It depends. If you can find good deals then any phone within $300-$500 should suffice. They are for the most part quite similar.

My current one cost $350. It has 12GB of ram, 1TB of fast ufs 3.1 storage. A 120hz curved amoled display with HDR support(on youtube). Also supports 67w fast charging. Plus, stereo speakers and a capable dimensity 7050 Soc. The camera is also nice with OIS.

I was considering a midrange Samsung. But, the deal(1Tb of storage and 12gb of ram, within $350) was too good to let go and Samsung wasn't providing any price cuts to justify the price. So, I made the choice. YMMV. Good luck.

[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which phone is it? My pixel 5a's camera just gave out and I'm in the market.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's a realme smartphone. I have the local variant purchased from Amazon india: https://m.gsmarena.com/realme_narzo_60_pro-12396.php

The global variant should be: https://m.gsmarena.com/realme_11_pro-12261.php But, depending on the region you may or may not get the higher storage variant.

The 11 pro plus should have the 1TB variant. https://m.gsmarena.com/realme_11_pro+-12246.php

You can also consider the latest poco X6 pro smartphone which comes with an even faster UFS 4.0 storage and equally powerful processor. The realme phones are a year old at this point with their succesors launched this month.

[–] smallaubergine@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For me its 250-350. I can usually get a 1 or 2 generation older flagship device at that price, refurbished.

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

250-350 of what currency?

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Whatever the most recent cheapest Pixel costs

[–] eatham@aussie.zone 4 points 9 months ago

$2,000,000,000

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Pixel A series for $300 is a good deal, or just deal with the OnePlus models. I don't use my mobile much anyway

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago

I think it depends on your use case and how strapped you are. Unless you're gaming, you don't need a super performant phone these days. Anything midrange will perform around the same as a flagship in normal phone tasks. What does matter is the form factor, battery life, and support window.

That being said, I basically only recommend the pixel series these days, because they support grapheneOS and they're just cheaper than other phones with that long of a support window.

Samsung and Motorola do make some nice hardware though.

[–] waterbogan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I paid NZ $469 for my current Samsung A31 almost four years ago, I wasnt fussed about the camera but wanted a 3.5 mm jack and lots of storage. Its now looking fairly shabby but still works well. I'll use it until its dead and get another phone around the $400 mark. Midrange, not top end, but not a budget phone either. It needs to do a number of jobs (play music, navigation, web surfing, record rides and hikes, camera, find cheap gas, tell me how much UV dosage I'll get at any particular time, weather, messaging on 3-4 apps plus calls of course) and be reasonably robust. Style and status dont come into it, I dont care about any of that

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Find cheap gas? One secret america dont want people to know.

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[–] Tolstoy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I prefer older used flagships. It's hardly depends on the use case though. I don't care about camera, games or what so ever. Phone, messenger and maybe a handful of apps for social and homelab. So for me it's max 100€

[–] 9715698@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is getting to be a better and better option with Google and Samsung promising more than 3yrs of OS updates.

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Under $300 IMO, that gets you a used flagship model from 1-2 years ago that isn't too much different from the current models.

[–] Blaze@discuss.online 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The issue is that currently the 1-2 years used flagships have a lot of issues

  • Samsung S21 and S22 have bad batteries, not even talking about Exynos if OP is based in the EU
  • Pixel 6 and 7 have bad connectivity and also some battery issues
  • OnePlus aren't what they used to be

That reduces quite a lot what should be the main source of used flagships

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Every generation has issues to be fair, I have an S21 and it's been great.

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I paid for the Pro version of the Pixel on my last go round, and I have to say it wasn't worth it at all. Unless you're doing gaming on your phone, the previous year's flagship is almost definitely good enough. Or go for the non-Pro if you don't care that much about the camera.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, just find a phone that was cutting edge 3-4 years ago. get it used off amazon or wherever for like $200-300. I bought my Samsung Galaxy S10 like 4 years ago, it still runs amazingly well.

[–] limerod@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

This is going to be even better with 7 years of updates on flagship smartphones from Google, samsung and Fairphone going forward. Your phone would still be updated and fairly secure by the time you get it.

[–] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Best value is around 300-400 $ But it depend on what you need on your phone, and you need to choose well.
https://www.kimovil.com/ has some good comparison.

[–] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I use apple phones, but i usually run 3-6 years behind.

Currently have an 11 , I think they are up to 14. I don’t really see what the new models do.

Still the thick end of 250 quid.

I don’t know what people who spend 1000 tell themselves.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

See the new models have a bigger number so that is better

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's funny, I bought an s9 plus at launch and was recently "kicking tires" thinking of upgrading.

Looked at the recent crop and from my judgement, they're about 15% better than this one for the things that matter to me. For only $2,000 CAD

Looks like I'll be having the screen and battery replaced and keeping this for another 7 years.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If you don't care about the cameras...

Nowadays that's probably the biggest most worthwhile improvement you'll see.

Edit: The difference between your S9 and an S23 or S24 would be pretty dramatic.

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[–] huginn@feddit.it 2 points 9 months ago

Value is subjective.

When the Pixel 7 came out it was incredibly good value for money. Buttery smooth, high quality cameras, best quality android experience $500. Unbeatable, and made the A series not worth it that year.

This year I'd probably say the pixel 7a.

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

250€ because I spent that much 18 months ago and still super happy

[–] quslsylt@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I think the budget is between $250 and $300

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