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[–] LostCause@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

When will companies finally understand that some people won‘t watch ads no matter what tricks they employ. I‘d rather watch no video at all than a single ad. If that is their goal, fine.

[–] landordragen@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

YouTube is the only Google service I use on a regular basis. Happy to leave them behind if they continue with this type of behavior.

It would be less convenient, but it is what it is and if there’s one thing I can’t stand, it’s ads.

[–] Unsigned@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

We're getting closer to the prophetic 4chan post

[–] donio@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

When you have a goose that produces a reliable daily supply of golden eggs do you:

  1. keep collecting your daily egg
    or
  2. see if giving it a good kick or two gets you more eggs
[–] Zifnab25@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

As YouTube increases the number and length of ads, the amount of traffic behind blockers rises accordingly.

This is also just... a function of the evolving digital space. The consolidation of the internet ownership sphere and the modernized APIs/coding tools afford server-side content warehouses more and more power over what the end user receives.

Because AWS owns all the fucking rack space, because ISP monopolies are the defining feature of western net access, and Microsoft force-feeds people their proprietary interfaces, we're moving away from the point where clients control what they display and closer to the point where everything's just a dumb-terminal for big business.

We're effectively backpeddling from Web 2.0 to Terrestrial TV.

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[–] nigh7y@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have really gone all out on the whole enshittification process during the past couple of years, haven’t they?

[–] NotBadAndYou@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Just wait until they figure out how much more $$$$ they can make by putting all content behind microtransactions:

Imagine a world where, instead of grappling with complex tokens and crypto jargon, you have a digital wallet connected to your Web browser. This wallet would automatically handle microtransactions as you browse and consume content, creating a seamless and simplified experience, reminiscent of exchanging tokens at a funfair or arcade

This transition to the Great Paywall isn't just about the monetization of content; it's about balancing the scales and recognizing the value of content creators in the digital ecosystem. In the next chapter of the Web, users aren't just passive consumers but active participants whose attention carries tangible value.

[–] Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

We did the Twitter to Mastodon migration. Now we are doing the Reddit to Lemmy/kbin migration. When are we doing the YouTube to Peertube migration?

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[–] PavelKorchagin@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Great, now YouTube is being further enshittified.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Seems like it's profit squeezin season on every major platform.

[–] Richardisaguy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, good luck making watch das trough newpipe

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[–] authed@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised it took them this long

[–] psysok@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I pay for a youtube premium family plan. Best money I spend monthly. I want to support the youtube creators that I watch, I don't have to see ads (I block them anyway), and I get a music service included.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does any of that money really goes to creators?

[–] psysok@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I do not have first hand knowledge, but I have heard that premium viewers are much more valuable to a channel than ad supported views. I also support channels I enjoy through Patreon as well. I would much rather pay and be a customer than do "free" services where my info is just the product for corporations.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

revanue from yt premium views is like 1000x from ad views. that's probably only going to get larger.

if you dont believe in paying for your media then you give power to the advertisers.

[–] couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully we get a decent alternative soon

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PeerTube exists but it is not popular. It has a lot of potential though

[–] Ghast@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's about to have more potential for growth.

small cease and desist for users

[–] androidul@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They already get a lot of 💰from ad revenue, charging for a subscription just made that revenue even bigger.

It’s possible they’re losing some coins here and there from the ad revenue that they’ve become so aggressive 😆

[–] dan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Then I’m going to begin not fucking watching YouTube.

[–] veloxization@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The tricks YT doesn't want you knowing about...

NewPipe

Piped

Invidious

[–] champion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] kadu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a federated version of YouTube...

But storing video is a massive challenge, way harder than dealing with a Lemmy or Mastodon instance.

[–] dan@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My rational mind realises it’s such an expensive system to run that it’s reasonable for them to charge or show ads. The problem is they’ve been extremely aggressive with ads and pushing subscriptions, to the point where I’m pretty resentful of the idea. Plus they’ve neglected so many things (like allowing aggressive copyright predators and refusing to implement sensible human-based appeals processes) that they really should have dealt with and instead embraced an algorithm that I’m pretty sure is at least partially responsible for the radicalisation of large groups of people.

I.. don’t mind paying for shit. I just don’t want to give them money.

Also: wow there’s federated video sharing? Bet that’s not cheap to run.

[–] CoffeeBot@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I think the other issue is that giving them money doesn’t stop some of the ads iirc

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

You can watch any YouTube video on Invidious, Peertube is a federated alternative to Youtube, Odysee is a blockchain based Youtube alternative that kicks back to creators and users, and many creators use Nebula as a subscription platform that directly pays them.

[–] manned_meatball@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

oh boy, I wish youtube kills itself like reddit is doing right now so decentralized alternatives can become widely adopted

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