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Federated alternatives are slowly building steam and people seem to have gotten pretty salty about corporate social media

I think you're overselling the importance of this one. When I've talked to friends about federated alternatives, they really aren't interested. Even if they hated Twitter/reddit and think they've gotten worse, they just don't really care about a federated alternative. I've heard some interest in threads, so maybe we count that?

They already make money with ads. Killing third party apps was part of this, now they can control exactly how you see ads. It's the same as any other social media now, they recommend you content, which is exactly not the point of reddit.

Sure, it's been the "winner" if you were expecting reddit to topple from top spot as best aggregator - but it was never really reasonable to expect that.

Even now, the perspective that Lemmy should strive to be some kind of new reddit is really daft.

What we actually want, is for Lemmy to grow in a sustainable and manageable way with real actual content enjoyed by real contributing users.

The quality of Lemmy has improved dramatically in the last 6 months. Way more users, servers, content, and third party apps. The quality of reddit has decreased dramatically in the last 6 months. User counts may not have suffered, but the content and the experience most certainly has.

Did they? Other than /nfl most of the communities I followed went to shit very quickly and haven't recovered. They are mostly bots talking to bots or the same questions and post over and over with minimal new content

I mean, that was never seriously in doubt. The days of massive site migrations happening overnight are long over.

What matters is the momentum.

meh.im happier as a member of the federation and honestly if we got all the reddit users it would lower the quality fast.

Similarly with twitter and mastodon. Generally, that's fine ... smaller niche online spaces are a good thing (as many who've remained have discovered I suspect).

But in the end, for those who see this fediverse project as a mission to "take back the web" ... so far only pretty minor movement has been made on that front. To the point that IMO I wouldn't be surprised if Twitter etc just "win" and the whole "alternative" social media thing stays "alternative" and relatively small. If there's a chance of this, I'd say to fediverse advocates that they should maybe rethink what the fediverse is and what it's good and not good for, because there's a real chance here that the fediverse kinda dropped the ball, especially mastodon which has been going strong for a while now.

Nah I've had a reddit account since the dawn of time and I've now switched completely over to lemmy. Can't remember the last time I logged onto reddit

Now we can watch this place grow into the thick veiny caterpillar reddit always should have been

Reddit Was the only site Google could effectively search. Rip googling questions and adding reddit.

All of the good stuff has already been scraped and uploaded to LLMs, don't worry.

Can't wait for him to rebrand it as Y

Can't they blow Musk up by accident or send him on a rocket to Mars that orbits forever there (oops)? Something like the submarine last year but better.

If the went from fifteen bucks to five billion, yes they totally won 😉

As in short circuit?

This data was out in the open for a decade and still is. People could train their llm without problems.

The worst part is that ai chatbots will start responding like redditers. I can't wait for chatgpt to regale me with a story about his dad beating him with jumper cables, or jolly ranchers, or hell in a cell.

Has reddit not already been scraped? With all of that information exposed bare on the public Internet for decades, and apparently so valuable, I find it hard to believe that everybody's just been sitting there twiddling their thumbs, saying "boy I sure hope they decide to sell us that data one day so that we don't have to force an intern to scrape it for us".