[Dormant] Electric Vehicles

Prius is still rocking all over the place and it says once again in his statement right here the guy likes hybrids. There's currently lots of hybrids out and about, and I agree with the guy. At least until battery tech changes. A hybrid battery is a few grand to replace and there's no range anxiety or worrying about plugging in anywhere. An EV with a decent range is $10,000 to $25,000 to replace an 1,100 lb battery in and it's expensive and troublesome if you don't live at a place where you can plug in at home in your garage.

As to prius being boring....I don't even know what you're talking about. What do you want it to do? They're still really popular and have been going for over 20 years with several different models and some that can be plugged in. How is it supposed to be exciting?

Also, toyota achieved a couple years ago something it had never done before. Top GM in sales in the US to get the number one spot. So with their "boring cars and their crappy ceo" they seem to be doing great.

It's his hand to play. If he's wrong, he's wrong and will find out.

I guess the data that says they spent too much money on hydrogen tech that is now unlikely to pay off.

Even if there’s no data to back it, isn’t 30% a lot?? I know plenty of markets where if you tell one of the leaders they could capture 30% of they’d be more than happy to spend billions in R&D. So just at face value the man is smoking some copium hard.

I think they're just putting out shit trying to create FUD so people are less likely to buy EVs.

The Hindenburg was coated in thermite.

You’re gonna be waiting a looong time.

Huge energy losses in the conversion of electricity to hydrogen. Also for passenger cars there are no clear benefits. 350kW chargers provide hundreds of kilometers of range in under 20 minutes.

I've always considered hydrogen cool but ive also assumed it needs huge infrastructure changes so it can be supplied to the general population. Some EVs you can plug in an outlet and putting up charging station is super easy.

I want to get off gas yesterday and EV is simply the quickest way imo.

Hydrogen is great on paper until you start looking into the details.

hydrogen cars have to store the fuel in 70000 PSI tanks. theres only 2 stations in my major city area that sell it, and they are often unavailable due to maintenance or supply issues. if the car needs service the only place that will touch it is an hour drive away.

Put a 10,000 psi tank of hydrogen in your car, or a tank of heavy, reactive metal hydride. Also, while hydrogen isn't a greenhouse gas, releasing unburned hydrogen into the atmosphere causes more GHG to be formed. Humans are terrible at keeping unburned gasses from leaking.

IDK why hydrogen just hasn't captured any mind share. Seems like a great technology.

It’s great science but it’s hard technology.

It almost requires extremely high pressure or cryogenic storage and it diffuses through everything.