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[–] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 106 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Why are you using vinegar in your ears? That's not typical.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Outer ear infection, I think it is a relatively common treatment?

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Ffs go see a doctor. If this is truly what your doctor is recommending then find a better doctor.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 2 points 7 months ago

If OP is in the US, I wouldn't assume that he has access to healthcare he can afford.

[–] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (21 children)

There's no research showing that it is an effective treatment.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

That's an old rural treatment -- peroxide and vinegar. They used that combo for everything

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[–] girl@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Yes! Earwax is slightly acidic (~6.1 pH) while acetic acid is more acidic (5% vinegar is ~2.5 pH) so the earwax acts as a base in this reaction.

ETA: there may be other things it is reacting with as well, like leftover soap, but this is how acid base reactions work. A chemical does not need to be above pH of 7 to act as a base. The more acidic compound will give its extra hydrogen to the less acidic compound.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)
  1. Something being less acidic does not mean that it acts like a base

  2. Bubbling occurs as a result of the production of a gas not as a result of an acid/base reaction in of itself. Baking soda and vinegar react to form CO2 (a gas) water and Sodium Acetate. The CO2 that is produced in that reaction is what causes bubbles NOT the acid/base reaction. eg. if you reacted Sodium Hydroxide and vinegar you will not observe bubbling because there is no gas being produced.

  3. Ear wax should not contain anything that should bubble as a result of the introduction of an acid.

Either what OP is observing isnt actually bubbling or there is something in their ear that shouldnt be.

[–] tyrefyre@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago

β€œThere’s something in the ear that shouldn’t be”

I would suggest that that something is vinegar.

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[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 7 points 7 months ago

Please unlearn this. This is wrong.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 26 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Why are you using it as ear drops? Is that safe?

Fizzing with acids usually means they are reacting with a base. Not sure what base would be in your ear though.

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Outer ear infection, I guess most ear drops for this are acetic acid? Dr. recommended it to help improve the ph or something.

[–] Hazzia@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If this was a Dr. recommendation and they specifically said it was to balance out the PH, then yes, the fizzling makes sense.

When an acid (vinegar) reacts with a base (I assume somehow related to the infection you mentioned) the chemical reactions tend to produce gasses. Baking soda + vinegar is a classic example. You have the equivalent of baking soda in your ear.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

OP should try to make pastries with ear wax

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 22 points 7 months ago

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Gotcha. Just making sure this is all Dr. approved. Vinegar can be more hazardous than some people realize. It is an acid after all.

Another user suggested it might be reacting with soap residue in your ear. This seems the most likely explanation to me.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A medical doctor or a fake doctor like naturopath, homeopath, etc?

[–] ReallyKinda@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

they got an MD at Loyola in chicago and work at/for Kaiser as a regular family Dr.β€” I specifically picked someone younger cause I figured they would be more up on the science straight out of med school but idk people seem very worked up

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It sounds really weird, to be sure. There's a difference in a food grade compound and pharmaceutical grade of the same compound. Though I guess since it will not interact with a mucosa or internal anatomy it's OK? Idk, I'm not a health professional. But it smelled more of folk remedy than medicine.

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[–] godzillabacter@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

You're generalizing a specific phenomenon, and incorrect. Acid-base reactions only very rarely produce gases. The reactions produce heat and water, only in the case of bicarbonate being a base is a gas produced. This is because carbonic acid forms, which spontaneously decays into carbon dioxide. This is not a universal acid-base phenomenon. Soaps should not cause fizzing with vinegar.

[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 7 months ago

This seems likely. Soap is a base and if you don’t rinse it all out there could be residue in there.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As my doc was wont to say, "let's compare who's got more medical degrees."

Listen to a doc until another fucking doc says otherwise.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Maybe earwax is basic? Why tf you putting vinegar in your ears?

[–] pescetarian@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

About peroxide: This substance is used only when removing earwax; for this cleaning, rinsing is recommended, in which liquid is poured into the ear (it can also be injected with a clean syringe and slowly dripped into the ear canal). During this procedure, the patient should lie with his head turned on the side of the healthy ear.

The solution reacts until the peroxide begins to bubble. The remaining content flows out and is wiped off. In otitis media, peroxide should not be used without the knowledge of a doctor β€” if the inflammation is in the outer ear, it can be transmitted deep into it, leading to a more serious infection or even a life-threatening condition such as a brain abscess. Drip 3% hydrogen peroxide into the affected ear. It will painlessly dissolve impurities in the ear canal. When the liquid stops bubbling, the ear canal is wiped with a cotton swab, the patient is placed on the side of the washed ear, and the rest of the contents flows onto the cotton swab.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why are you talking about peroxide?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Probably because it's part of OP's original question.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

As an alternative, I would say.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Don’t do this. If you have earwax build up go see an ENT. You’re just risking your ear health and the possibility of giving your self permanent tinnitus or something worse.

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[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is it normal to use white vinegar as ear drops?

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 months ago

My dad used vinegar as ear drops to treat eczema based on doctors orders. It worked very well.

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[–] tomten@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Yes it's normal, I sometimes use that to disinfect my ears after diving and it sizzles a bit.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

Yes...if you're a vampire.

[–] noride@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why didn't you stick with 3% peroxide to clean it, out of curiosity? Just none available, or am I the only crazy person who does this from time to time?

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