What the ICJ’s interim ruling means for Israel’s war on Gaza, in terms of realpolitik: pretty much nothing, to be honest.
this post was submitted on 26 Jan 2024
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I think it's an important step to increasing international pressure on Israel. International pressure was a major reason for how the apartheid in South Africa came to an end. But I do agree it's terrible more immediate actions aren't being taken to help Palestinians like an actual ceasefire or aid not being prevented for possible "dual-use"
I agree that it’s important.
I also agree that it’s deeply frustrating that this is effectively just a slap on the wrist for Israel.
Yes this ruling puts pressure on the genocide enablers in Europe and the US. Israel will still act with impunity as it has done since it was founded but it is dependant on the political and military cover of it's backers. If Western politicians are under pressure to comply with domestic laws against genocide then they will start breaking ranks.
International pressure was not a major reason for the undoing of the Apartheid, massive sanctions were. And there's no way major sanctions will come upon Israel any time soon since everyone pretty much agrees that Hamas has to be removed, even if they don't want to say it out loud.
We'll have to see what happens with how the international community reacts to the ICJ ruling. I consider sanctions a form of international pressure.
Hamas should get tried for their war crimes, same for Israeli officials. But unless statehood is addressed I don't see that happening yet. With the massive amount of settlers swiss cheesing the West Bank, I don't see any practical two-state solution. A one-state solution is what I think needs to happen but the realities of creating that would be quite complicated and require a lot of international pressure
One state is delusional and neither party wants that... Well maybe the Palestinians want it to gain the population majority and vote for a bunch of anti jew legislation or simply pogrom them out of existence.
Two states with less shitty borders would be a bit more realistic, maybe the 1967 parameters or so. But currently both Palestinians and Israeli want to keep fighting because they both think it will help them reach their goals - and one of them is correct, guess who.
Sanctions are exactly that: international pressure.
Sure all sanctions are international pressure but not all international pressure is in the form of sanctions. The pressure we are seeing right now is mainly in the form of strongly worded letters and I don't expect that to change unless Israel dramatically escalates its war efforts or annexes areas.
it MIGHT have an effect in the united states. israel is so reliant on us dollars and equipment to survive, it would not be much of a stretch to call them a client state.
I don't think any (democratic) politicians want to be associated with or vocally support a genocidal nation. don't be surprised if you see (democratic) politicians talk about pulling funds from israel. it's something I think we should have done at least 30 years ago.