This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
I have a solution:
If it cost them real money (proportional to their market cap perhaps) to allow a data breach, I’m betting they’d shore up those holes REALLLLLLLLLL QUICK.
They're too busy proposing legislation to create back doors that completely circumvent security in the first place.
Yeah, people shouldn't look to their government to protect them from this. Hell, I'd be willing to bet no small amount of taxes go to purchasing the leaked info at places like the CIA, NSA, and FBI.
As much as I agree that something needs to be done to these companies, and that they deserve punishment, I think this approach would only result in leaks (even more) underreported, which makes it even worse.
Are these leaks even being reported by companies? Every article I have seen so far has just been compiling information off the new leaked data set someone picked up off the dark web or something.
They weren't, which is why the SEC updated 17 CFR Parts 229, 232, 239, 240, and 249.
https://www.sec.gov/files/rules/final/2023/33-11216.pdf
As of December 18th of last year, publicly traded companies are now required to disclose breaches. (soz, material cybersecurity incidents).
Prior to that, they could ...basically... just effectively sweep everything under the rug "like it never happened" minus a little handwaving and paper shuffling and nobody would find out about it until the information got sold and went public.
I'll have to go looking but I would be SERIOUSLY surprised if the disclosures apply to credit card companies (the MOST breached, historically) because I'm not sure what exactly qualifies someone as an asset-backed issuer, but it's at least a really good step for the REST of things.
Nah, throw the board members in prison. If the punishment for crime is a fine then it's legal for rich people/corps. Put 'em in solitary and feed them nutraloaf for one day for each person's data they allowed to be leaked.
If they get all the money because they're ultimately responsible, we should make them ultimately responsible.
Here's the summary for the wikipedia article you mentioned in your comment:
Nutraloaf (also known as meal loaf, prison loaf, disciplinary loaf, food loaf, lockup loaf, confinement loaf, seg loaf, grue or special management meal) is food served in prisons in the United States (and formerly in Canada) to inmates who have misbehaved, abused food, or have inflicted harm upon themselves or others. It is similar to meatloaf in texture, but has a wider variety of ingredients. Prison loaf is usually bland, even unpleasant, but prison wardens argue that nutraloaf provides enough nutrition to keep prisoners healthy without requiring eating utensils.
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Article 82, paragraph 1 of the GDPR:
Any person who has suffered material or non-material damage as a result of an infringement of this Regulation shall have the right to receive compensation from the controller or processor for the damage suffered.
Paragraph 2:
Any controller involved in processing shall be liable for the damage caused by processing which infringes this Regulation
Article 24, paragraph 1:
**[T]he controller shall **implement appropriate technical and organisational measures to ensure and to be able to demonstrate that processing is performed in accordance with this Regulation.
Article 5, paragraph 1f:
Personal data shall be: […] processed in a manner that ensures appropriate security of the personal data, including protection against unauthorised or unlawful processing and against accidental loss,
Article 83, paragraphs 2 and 5:
Each supervisory authority shall ensure that the imposition of administrative fines pursuant to this Article in respect of infringements of this Regulation referred to in paragraphs 4, 5 and 6 shall in each individual case be effective, proportionate and dissuasive.
Infringements of the following provisions shall, in accordance with paragraph 2, be subject to administrative fines up to 20 000 000 EUR, or in the case of an undertaking, up to 4 % of the total worldwide annual turnover of the preceding financial year, whichever is higher:
(a) the basic principles for processing, including conditions for consent, pursuant to Articles 5, 6, 7 and 9;
Article 4, paragraph 7:
‘controller’ means the natural or legal person, public authority, agency or other body which, alone or jointly with others, determines the purposes and means of the processing of personal data
(All quotes are excepts, emphasis mine
I got lost in the comments... why did you paste that here? To show that it is possible to make the data controller liable for breaches?
Exactly. This is supposed to show that what @demesisx@infosec.pub demands is already law in the EU.
They won't because fines are just a fee to allow them to run unethically. That way businesses get more profit than they would otherwise and government gets their cut to allow it. It's broken by design.
The EU has proven time and again that fines can hurt.
Kind of worrying when their source is a “data breach information website” that does advertorials for “the most safe password manager” NordPass. 🤮 The internet of today has become a pile of absolute shit.
We should make a new internet in the dark web, but only invite cool people. No billionaires, narcs nor finks allowed !
I think it's gotten to the point that we. (Collective) Have to start using alias. I know proton for a price gives fake mobile and email address.
I have started using a 5th email to sign up to things. Have an extra number as well. It's beyond a joke really.
Tried to sign up for a budget app and it requires email phone and address.
No. No you don't require any of that. You want that to sell. And you've likely got inadequate protection.
Nobody but my bank job and maybe a few places require all my info.
Oh proton gives mobile too... Ya know I didn't feel like paying for the mail thing as I can have my domain and relay easily but the mobile thing I didn't know.
But I will be honest I didn't see it mentioned on the web, it's already a thing?
Could you use Google voice to generate a dumby phone line ? There are probably better non-google options now though.
Not until a politician or billionaire is harmed by these breaches will we see some action.
They’ll get justice, you’ll get a check in the mail for 3 dollars, after some lawyers win a class action lawsuit.
I don't think so.
Trump himself was victim of credential stuffing. And he's not the only politician or billionaire who has suffered stolen accounts of something.
You'd have to have the data breach also be the cause of them losing massive amounts of wealth, which probably isn't going to happen.
That seems weird, it's called mother of all breaches, but isn't the result of any one breach. It's just data collection from ordinary breaches with perhaps some credential stuffing in the mix.
"The MOAB contains 26 billion records over 3,800 folders, with each folder corresponding to a separate data breach. While this doesn’t mean that the difference between the two automatically translates to previously unpublished data, billions of new records point to a very high probability, the MOAB contains never seen before information." Totaling 12TB.
I've always thought LinkedIn is nothing more than a massive treasure trove of personal information just waiting to be harvested by thieves wanting the entire life and work history of millions of upwardly mobile career focused people.
Work History ok... But entire life... I guess people that used like it's Facebook maybe? 🤔
LinkedIn is trying to encourage people to use it as a social networking site.
We just need a free dart monkey or two, it'll be fine.
I honestly wonder if my data wouldn't be safer on some sites, if I skipped two-factor authentication and a recovery email, and simply used my date of birth as a password. At least then, they'd wouldn't be able to leak the phone number or email adress, because I was never forced to give it to them.
It's even more annoying, because you can't easily avoid many of these companies. Eg. for jobs it's really hard to get around using linkedin. I mean, I refuse out of principe and have for years, so my data's a decade out of data, but it's obviously cost me opportunities.
There are almost certainly pictures of me floating around social media, taken without my permission, but tagged by facebook or google just in case I had any fucking privacy. And now thanks to some phones. they also have our finger prints and retinal scans, which will inevitably get leaked sooner rather than later. I pity the poor chumps whose DNA was leaked, that's even worse. Most of that will probably be leaked sooner or later, if it hasn't already, because it turns out a subcontractor used the youtube comment section to communicate between departments.
If I had the technical ability, I would design a two-factor authentication system based on rectal scans.
"Here at OmniCorp we believe all our customers our unique, that's why we believe in securing your data by linking your DNA, phonenumber, social security number, retinal scan and finger print, with a picture of your anus. Bend Over. The Future's Now."
"hop up here on the table so I can scan that ass"
Tencent tops the chart, with 1.5 billion records leaked, followed by Weibo at 504 million and MySpace at 360 million.
MySpace in the news as Top Western Leaker
