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Defiant Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu doubled down on opposition to Palestinian statehood, deepening the divide with Israel’s closest international allies, as cracks in his wartime “unity” government became increasingly evident.

Anger with Netanyahu is also increasingly visible on the streets, even though there is broad public support for the war. On Saturday, protesters gathered in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Caesarea and Kfar Saba, some calling for bolder action to secure the release of hostages, and others demanding the prime minister step down.

One in Jerusalem held a placard that read: “Mothers’ cry: we will not sacrifice our children in the war to save the rightwing.”

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[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 74 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Why does the "sole remaining Superpower nation" bow to a small onery loud mouthed pseudo-nation? Which one is in charge? Curious.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 39 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Because taking them to task implies that supporting them for the last seventy years might have been a mistake.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We're Americans. We don't quit just because we're wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing until it turns out right!

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 4 points 8 months ago
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Also, turn out at the polls. Certain Christian voting blocks think supporting Israel is critical for end of days prophecies. And some swing districts have old retirees that show up to vote and have sympathy for Israel.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 18 points 8 months ago

Because Israel has put a great deal of effort into shaping US public opinion and controlling US politicians since the 1980s, when the Israeli left effectively rolled over and croaked, because the Israeli right knew the day would come when they'd need to stall for time while they finished up their genocide.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

One reason is that they're a militarily important foothold for our presence in the middle east. Same goes for the UK.

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

It seems like people genuinely do not know about the nukes that Israel definitely does not possess wink wink. Kinda changes the dynamic a little bit, I think.

[–] CyberDine@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“If there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one.” ~Joe Biden

The State is absolutely necessary to U.S. interests in the Middle East.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

Seems that this policy didn't age well. SA is getting closer to Iran, China is everywhere, Turkey is shaping its own regional policy. There's no much room anymore for Yankee interference in the Middle-East. Even the US government wants to refocus much of its foreign policy toward Asia-Pacific.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Israel has spent decades building a powerful lobbying bloc in Washington. American-Israel PAC is one of the top 3 donors of Congress competing with NRA. They made ties with evangelicals and give free vacations to Israel for every politician. They establish ties with both major political parties and spend millions to defeat any congressman who criticizes Israel.

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[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because they have nukes and would use them on their neighbors.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (9 children)

While screaming and crying about how all those neighbors hate them

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[–] t0m5k1@lemmy.world 73 points 8 months ago (1 children)

His true colours are on full display, yet many still try to say this is not genocide.

It's sick to the core.

[–] Why9@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

UK's David Cameron: "to suggest there's genocidal intent? I do believe that's wrong"

They'll bend over backwards to support Israel, and people are asking what Israel has over the UK to make it so. At some point, answers will have to be given.

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[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 65 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just wish there was some historical example to show how it's wrong to eliminate an entire group of people. Then, they could teach the Israeli government that the systematic removal of a group of people is wrong. But none such example exists. We need to build a great hall that tells of the cost of life by war and hatred. It will be called the great Hall of Cost.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 34 points 8 months ago

There were Zionists in Israel who were actually supportive of the Nazis, both because they hated the British that much, and because they thought that if the Nazis forced the Jews out of Europe, those Jews would move to Mandatory Palestine to take up arms and exterminate the Arabs.

The Stern Gang, otherwise known as the Lehi terrorist organization (and later integrated directly into the IDF as it formed) actually used Nazi race "science" to claim that Jews were a superior race and should exterminate the Arabs who lived in the area. The Stern Gang actually tried to field troops in support of the Nazis in Europe. They tried repeatedly until 1942. The Nazis said no.

Fun fact; Netanyahu's political party formed in the 1980s, as a fusion of two other right-wing parties. The first part leader and Netanyahu's mentor was a former member of Lehi, and as prime minister gave all surviving terrorists medals "for their service in creating the State of Israel".

The other two paramilitary organizations that folded into the IDF were also full of terrorists.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 54 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I don't see why they continue to give weapons to Israel. Just cut them off.

[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Many US voters see Israel as the way to get to the end times, Judgement Day. Not doing whatever Israel wants is political suicide.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That we allow religion to hold such massive sway is such a point of shame for our species, and out countries.

[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not only that, it’s also a complete crazy pants interpretation of the Christian Bible. US politics is held captive by lunatics.

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[–] Atin@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

That and the US military use Israel to test weapons in combat operations. The same idea is why they are so willing to aid Ukraine.

[–] ARk@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/us-evangelical-christians-israel-hamas-war

“What will come soon [is] the antichrist and his seven year empire that will be destroyed in the battle of armageddon. Then Jesus Christ will set up his throne in the city of Jerusalem. He will establish a kingdom that will never end,” Hagee said.

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[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This shit has to stop. Israël under Likoud has turned into a rogue state, fighting a ruthless war on Palistian people, justifying the war for its own corrupt leaders. US and European governments must realize that Israel is not their ally anymore. It has become a liability and will not do anything for them

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Israël under Likoud has turned into a rogue state, fighting a ruthless war on Palistian people, justifying the war for its own corrupt leaders

Always has been.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 11 points 8 months ago

Both are true. It has always been the case, and yet Likud and the country at large have both definitely shifted hard to the right in the last 10 years.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago (28 children)

The really tragic thing is that this is a unique opportunity to establish a Palestinian state with the kind of global support and Arab investment that it would need to succeed.

Most Israelis want nothing to do with an extended stay in Gaza. Another leader in Israel would be able to make it happen, along with ANY serious leadership from Palestine. Abbas is useless, and Haniyeh is delighted to send wave after wave of martyrs at Israel while cashing the aid checks.

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Are we still doing this narrative that the US wants Israel to stop? They have literally given them billions since they've started bombing. Any bullshit about hoping for palestinians is just trying to save face.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yes? There's a huge amount of inertia in US-Israeli relations but it's very clear at this point that Biden is yanking the leash and trying to reel Netanyahu into a path towards peace. They aren't going to stop supplying weapons any time soon (if ever), the first step would be explicit restrictions on what the weapons could be used for, and we're still a very long ways from that being considered publicly.

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Israel doesn't give a shit what anyone else wants them to do. They're going to continue slaughtering the Palestinians and taking their land until someone physically prevents them.

[–] Muyal@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How is Biden yanking the chain?

He hasn't done anything to stop the funding and the sales of weapons.

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[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the obscene amount of money we give them is more to do with our nation's whole 'military industrial complex' grift. Gotta keep those bombs blowing to keep the money flowing. As they say. I assume.

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[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The US when Israel openly does bad stuff: "We've done nothing and we're all out of ideas!"

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What country are they going to give to Palestinians after this Holocaust is over? Germany would be the ultimate irony.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Fuck off hitler

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