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President Biden announced Friday that his administration is forgiving $5 billion in student debt for another 74,000 borrowers, marking the latest round of debt cancellation since the Supreme Court voided the president's student loan forgiveness program.

Mr. Biden said that of the borrowers who can receive relief, nearly 44,000 are teachers, nurses, firefighters and others who are eligible for forgiveness after working 10 years of public service. Almost 30,000 of those who will have their debt wiped clean have been repaying their loans for at least 20 years, but did not get the relief they earned through income-based plans, the president said.

With the latest round of student loan forgiveness, more than 3.7 million Americans have had their debt erased under the Biden administration, Mr. Biden said.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Let's do all of it, and put in place a solution for all future student loans. They are robbing us blind right now, and costing future generations a chance at a debt free life.

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He did do a lot more! I mentioned it in another comment a week ago, but look into what his save plan does. Lowers costs, lowers interest, increases forgiveness, etc. etc.

[–] DrDr@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Save plan lowered my effective interest rate to around 2%. I'll still have to pay a lot over the next 20 years, and if the tax bomb is not removed it will be another 100,000. However my cash flow is much improved and how much I pay total has decreased drastically.

Still fighting with my student loan servicer to set me up on the plan correctly, but that is a different can of worms. The servicers need to have their contracts nullified for how terrible they have been.

[–] Instigate@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago

Definitely better than a kick in the teeth, but it’s a shame the Supreme Court nixed the bigger loan forgiveness plan. I’m glad to see Biden is still trying to live up to his promise as much as he can given the obstructionist Congress and Supreme Court.

Here in Australia, our student loans are given and managed by the Australian Tax Office, and while they technically don’t accrue interest they are “indexed” according to inflation (CPI specifically) once per year, every year. Our repayments just come out of or income like regular income taxes - that means that the repayments are tax-deductible too. We usually get indexed around 2-3% per year but last year it was almost 8% which hit really hard. Most degrees also fall under the Higher Education Commonwealth Support (HECS) program which drastically reduces their total cost too.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, but that's progressive...

We keep electing democrats that think fixing something at once would be too disruptive.

So they stretch the smallest amount of progress as long as they can, even if that doesn't make up for damage Republicans do.

Its been like 80 years since moderate Dems told FDR that it was too soon for universal healthcare and Americans had to wait a few more years to make sure it's a good idea.

And they're still fucking saying they need to look into it more. It'll never be time. Student Debt relief shows every indication that it's going to be the same thing.

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This may be a shock to you, but there are other branches of government in the US. One of which is not elected and that's the one that recently struck down Biden's HEROS plan that would have eliminated $460B in student loan debt.

https://www.ncsl.org/state-legislatures-news/details/supreme-court-strikes-down-student-loan-forgiveness-program

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Good thing we elected a career politician who said his decades of Senate experience meant he could get Republicans in the Senate and house to vote for progressive legislation...

Oh, that's right...

I forgot Dems had the Senate, House, and presidency for 2 years....

But that highly experienced career politician told us trying to change even a single politicians mind (even if they were in his own party) was an impossible task so he wouldn't even try.

Welp, at least we're not running him again since the whole reason he said he was the man for the job turned out to be something he was lying about...

That would seem like a terrible plan

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[–] Wermhatswormhat@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’m not sure why this comment is so controversial. It’s exactly what’s happening. We’ve been talking about this now for forever and almost nothing is happening. It’s wonderful that 74,000 people get some relief but that’s a drop in the ocean. I want it badly but I’ve almost accepted the fact that it’s probably not going to happen.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Lots of moderates want to keep copying the Republican party, even the part where no one is allowed to question any politician who has the right letter next to their name.

They think it's better to live with the problems and not talk about them let alone solve them.

Which is pretty much the whole problem.

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Forgiving 5B in student debt VS inciting riot to overthrow our government...

bOtH sIdEs aRe tHe sAmE!!!

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

well one side didn't go to college so this is basically a nothing burger to them

[–] ABoxOfPhotons@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

One of them has a long history of ruining pretty much everything he touches.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

neither is good.

democrat - joe biden is funding a genocide

republican - trump is trying to overthrow the government

[–] adrian783@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

trump is more like "we have genocide at home"

[–] gastationsushi@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My lender has been sitting on my application for PAYE since September. And I doubt it ever gets processed as it won't help their bottom line?

Biden should have left the debt pause indefinitely and fight judges who ruled against himself. The courts allow delays. This would gain him back a lot of support and it would cost him zero political capital.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep. He told Republicans he would stop pausing it to pass funding for the government.

He should have lied like they would.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I mean, yes?

It's time to fucking play hardball with these creeps instead of this milquetoast turn the other cheek bullshit.

They want to play the game like that, so they are setting the ground rules. Acting like we have to keep one hand tied behind our back during a fight with them is fucking stupid. Get that arm out and throw sand in their fucking eyes.

Pocket sand!

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, we don't need to stoop to make this even. Just start making the courts somewhat even again and arrest these clowns. We don't have to be peices of shit because they are.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

In principle I agree. In practice idk.

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[–] AaronMaria@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For a second I thought this said Biden is forgiving $5 and assumed this is the onion.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I might be included in one of the recent rounds of forgiveness (the one where if you have under 12k in loans taken out and have kept up with payments for over 10 years). I've paid off all but about $250 of it, and even making the minimum payment, I'll have it paid off in around 4 months anyway. Unless they move at breakneck speeds by government standards, by the time they actually get everything processed, $5 sounds about right. Which hey, if that ends up being how it goes, I get a free ice cream cone on Uncle Joe. Can't complain about that.

[–] J12@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Good call, but we need to fix the underlying problem that is the ridiculous price for higher education. With every piece of information online I find it very hard to believe we can’t get average annual tuition down from 20k a year.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not a bad move from Biden here.

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 0 points 9 months ago

It is according to Lemmy purists. If an action doesn't tick all their boxes and perfectly solve a complex problem then fuck you.

[–] schwim@reddthat.com 7 points 9 months ago

Averages out to be 67,567.56 per.

[–] gogosempai@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Paying education loans even after 20 years of working in public service? Seems like a failure of the education system. I'm from Europe, also been to India a lot on business, and never have I seen anything of this magnitude. You can get a good education even in India for a very nominal tuition fee that middle-class parents are also able to cover without taking out loans. For poor families, it's virtually nothing in good state universities. The idea is that education will empower even the poor and they'll be able to get a good job and become tax paying citizens. Not like if you're poor, we're still gonna crush the heck out of you with more debt. The latter seems to be the strategy employed in the US. In most European countries, education is virtually free covered by taxes. Of course taxes are high but it benefits everyone in terms of healthcare and education. Is that really so bad? Isn't it the government's job to make sure EVERYONE has access to good healthcare and education? Then why does it feel that it is a money-oriented corporation running the country rather than a government?

Sorry, went on a rant there. Whenever I see something like this it just makes my blood boil. Teachers, firefighters, nurses still paying student loans after a decade or two, that's a failure of the education system right there.

[–] ABoxOfPhotons@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, the US isn't a country, it's a business and it's people get shafted hard for this.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Wow, thx Joe!

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