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A federal appeals court on Tuesday ruled that Texas hospitals and doctors are not obligated to perform abortions under a longstanding national emergency-care law, dealing a blow to the White House's strategy to ensure access to the procedure after the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to abortion in 2022.

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[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 121 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And they claim that they "don't hate women they just love babies! <3 <3"

I am disgusted, but not surprised.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They just hate their political opposition.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (9 children)

They love everything their media tells them to.

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[–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Love dying babies, dead moms****

Because moms aren't women, they are moms!!!/s

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ok, to get this straight: cops do not need to protect, nor serve, and doctors do not need to save your life. I suppose life guards will get to decide whether or not they will grab a drowning child. Maybe the bathing suit is distasteful? If someone is in the street, I don't have to stop unless I am fully comfortable doing so; I paid for my car and I shouldn't have to risk damaging it by running someone over.

What are regulations even for? God, the government is so useless!

Hard /s

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  • The conservative government is useless
[–] kromem@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not useless, it's actively harmful.

Useless would be not providing funding for public health initiatives around contraception and abortions.

But actively preventing adults from making life changing medical decisions for themselves is worse than useless, it's harmful.

Conservatives have been so committed to "the scariest words are the government saying I'm here to help" that they now aggressively make sure the government hurts people.

The Republican party needs to go the way of the Whigs.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Just think of what it'll do to all your precious momentum you already built up when you press the brakes!

Relevant: https://youtu.be/N7zFRHel4uw?si=kN2ljHCOmhF8BpSJ

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago

Well that's fucking sickening

[–] Tosti@feddit.nl 50 points 10 months ago (6 children)

"Some of you may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take."

Poor women.

But a prime example what failing to codify into law does. The pro choice lawmakers failed all these decades to actually create robust laws protecting women's reproductive choice and health. Then Roe fell and there was nothing to hold back the hordes of Christian zealots waiting in the wings. Their intent was clear as some states even had trigger laws that would enact the moment Roe fell.

You see that now there is a scurry to create several laws that should curtail the president's power, as certain limits existed based on decency, decorum and shame. Now that decency, decorum and shame no longer play a role in politics, only hard and explicit rules help.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They never did anything because roe was rock fucking solid!!! Scotus had to literally show how corrupt they were by completely ignoring the 9th and the 14th amendments. They basically completely destroyed 50 years of jurisprudence and literally lied in their Dobbs reasoning.

Stop pretending any fucking law on the books would have stopped these ghouls.

[–] Tosti@feddit.nl 16 points 10 months ago

Except it wasn't law, only jurisprudence. And many law scholars warned about the exact scenario that unfolded.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 10 months ago

They never did anything because roe was rock fucking solid!!!

No, it wasn't. It was always just one bad decision away from crumbling, one that was always imminent because while it might be good policy, it was a bad decision from a legal standpoint. Any decision built on implied rights drawn from the shadows cast by other legal rights is inherently going to be on shaky ground, because determining what exactly those implied rights are is like reading tea leaves.

It doesn't help that a lot of the arguments, positions and implied rights surrounding abortion seem to only apply in that context.

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[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Its not that what youre saying is untrue. Its just that there are people actively killing women and youre shifting the blame to another group of people for not stopping them. Its more that a bad thing happened, but also another less bad thing happened. One is an overt attack on women but also some other folks may have been negligent.

DARVO- Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender

[–] Tosti@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I reject that way of describing my comment.

The heinous attack was already ongoing, with the trigger laws, rhetoric and actions (protesting abortion clinics is vile).

And the only legal recourse and opposition to these actions (that the US law protects) is by changing these laws.

You can stomp your feet all you want but the mother-killing christian nutbags that planned this scenario knew this, played the game, and won the last battle. Now women are paying the price.

So yes, lawmakers absolutely are to blame for not codifying into law the protection of reproductive choice. That does in no way mean that they are to blame for the vile actions of the pro-mother killing evangelicals, they can carry their own torch.

I want to add that your immediate attack on people that mostly align with your desired outcome will most likely alienate your would be allies instead of getting their help... Or maybe that is your plan.

Edit: and to be clear the victims are the women not the lawmakers.

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[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago

Their intent was clear as some states even had trigger laws that would enact the moment Roe fell.

And some, like mine, just never repealed the old law against it. No need to pass a trigger law when the old unenforceable abortion ban that's literally older than the state can suddenly become enforceable.

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[–] crsu@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Death panels are real in TX

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The 5th Circuit: when you need a less legitimate court than SCOTUS.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Hippocrite’s Oath:

First- allow harm.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (4 children)
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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Is there such a thing as murder by inaction? As in you could have prevented a death by taking action, and you didn't? Sounds like this might be it.

[–] ITypeWithMyDick@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Social Murder could be the term, but there may be a more suited one.

Social murder (German: sozialer Mord) is the unnatural death that occurs due to social, political, or economic oppression.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_murder

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

In Texas it's called Negligent Homicide.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 29 points 10 months ago (8 children)

A sick part of me is happy that these states are going insane. I can’t wait for a redneck to start crying when his wife dies because his already dead-in-the-womb baby still counts as a baby, and the doctor says, “gosh, that’s an abortion! I can’t do that because of your vote”

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that they will never acknowledge that they were the ones that caused them to get to that point. That is why we are here today.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Some will admit it. When it affects them.

But the number actually affected isn't enough to sway elections. And the rest have zero empathy for others or foresight so won't care unless they are impacted.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

True, they can’t smell their own shit on their knees.

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

It's hard to smell the shit on your knees when you've got your head up someone's ass.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

A lot of people are going to be hurt and killed in the meantime.

I'd have preferred to not see that happen in the first place

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The redneck will probably just scream Obamacare killed his wife then go vote for Trump even if he isn't on the ballot that year.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Most likely.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That happened hundreds of times with COVID, didn't change a thing. The GOP does not serve constituents, it's the other way around.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

First, do ~~no~~ some harm.

[–] gearheart@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

I still do not understand how lawmakers are allowed to practice medicine without a doctorate.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

Having just read it, I am extremely disappointed to know that the Hippocratic oath doesn't mention anything about failing to provide care when it's necessary.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Be kind to these people when they come to seek asylum in your state. People can change and learn from their mistakes (in the case that they voted these reps in, they might not even regret it but honey and vinegar right?)

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

46% of Texans voted for Biden. Before the election, there were (wishful) talks of Texas becoming purple. It's much more blue than Florida, for example. But, the gerrymandering is pretty egregious.

Here's one district that contains black neighborhoods in both San Antonio and Austin, which are about 100 miles apart.

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[–] MamboGator@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This is the paradox of tolerance. You don't need to show kindness to those who would sooner spit on you for no greater reason than that they hate you for being born or the circumstances of your life.

People can change, but being given a second chance is a privilege and not a right. If you fuck up badly enough, no one is obligated to forgive you. Plenty of us make it through our whole lives without being fearful little shits who dedicate our votes to hurting others. I have no tolerance for those who can't manage that, and they're LUCKY to get a second chance, not guaranteed.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I disagree. Conservatives cannot "change and learn". If they could, they would not be conservatives. They may temporarily pretend to change when it benefits them. But, that should not be confused with actual change or growth.

Conservatives delight in the misery, oppression and death of others. It is who they are at their core. Be extremely careful dealing with them. They do not value the lives of others the way normal people do.

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[–] iquanyin@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

evil goes by the name “far right” currently

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Texas is a garbage state in a shithole of a country.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

2 of those justices were ones that Schumer fast tracked under Trump so Congress could start their recess on time.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do we just take them out back and put them down now?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. We let them suffer painful complications and die slowly.

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