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I needed to reinstall Firefox on this computer, so I started up Chrome to download the latest version and it blocked the download as unsafe! I had to manually tell it to download anyway.

Fuck Chrome. I'm glad I only used it to download one file and went back to Firefox.

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[–] crsu@lemmy.world 81 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My favorite is Edge trying to plead with you not to switch browsers

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago
[–] grue@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

I will now, thanks!

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Remember when the meme was about Internet Explorer?

IE: What is my purpose?

Me: You download Chrome!

IE: Oh...my god!

Now Chrome isn't trusted. Even duck duck go is getting dubious. It seems there's almost nowhere to turn. Your data is their data, and if you dont like it, you can lump it.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] omnomed@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Basically microsoft has a deal with them which makes them give aggregate data to microsoft. Which led to this.

P.S. : I am primarily still using ddg in case someone's thinking I'm an anti or something.

[–] Vt1984@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ok, seems it’s time to seek next search engine.

[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I use both SearX and LibreX alongside DDG and that helps with 99% of my daily search online.

If I need to use Google for search, I do so in my tor browser.

[–] Vt1984@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The safety of tor browser is great, but I usually use the private mode of safari or firefox, I am lazy to wait for the tor... unless I do some important things.

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[–] v81@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Nothing. Just a misunderstanding that blew up.

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] dym_sh@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

those also blew up, no traces left

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[–] v81@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Is it fair that I have to post a source when someone criticizing doesn't?

I'm just a passing stranger that just happens to have good knowledge about a significant misunderstanding that happened a year ago.

I don't walk around with 'sources' to all of the knowledge I've ever gained hanging out of my back pocket.

This is why "source?" posts are stupid and unreasonable, double so when in response to something where a source was never provided.

Now.. that all said, I do have a moment now that I didn't have previously to provide additional information.

This article... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31490515 ...Is a starting point, and more info can be found with your own search.

The basic gist was that it was claims DDG pass user data that could identify a user to Microsoft from searches, however this was never the case.

I have to allegiance with DDG.. they do an ok job. But I do indeed think it unfair they get continuously accused of wrongdoing, even still to this day as evidenced here.

This is just another case of bad, negative or incorrect information getting more publicity than the facts.

[–] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone did provide a source in response when asked instead of writing a diatribe, not that I disagree with you, but your complaint was unnecessary. Someone made a claim and was asked for more information, you made an opposite claim in response to that and were asked for more information.

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[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Is it fair that I have to post a source when someone criticizing doesn’t?

If you're trying to debunk a myth or call someone's BS, then yes a source should be your opening statement. Is it fair? No. Is it necessary? Absolutely.

With all that said thank you for providing the source. A very well written one it was. I am going to debunk this myth now too, if and when I see it.

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[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even duck duck go is getting dubious.

Tried Kagi?

[–] SkyeHarith@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Eyy! You took the words out of my mouth! I don’t mind paying for a search engine if it’s good lol

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[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

At work, we subscribe to Microsoft Defender so that we get a centralised view of potential security issues on people’s computers.

It’s always saying that there’s something wrong with Chrome and it never alerts about the same issues that are almost certainly a problem with Edge.

That’s mildly infuriating too.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Of course! With it's ad-blocking features, Firefox threatens the Chrome/Alphabet profits! This cannot be legal in a free (to make profits) country! /s

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Firefox thinks Chrome is unsafe as well.

[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

Well thats true though........

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[–] masto@lemmy.masto.community 22 points 11 months ago

You have disabled Safe Browsing. That prevents files from being checked for malware, so all downloads are blocked by default (nothing to do with Firefox). As you noted, you can override the warning to download anyway, but it is an extra step to try to reduce the chance of someone accidentally running a malicious program.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 10 points 11 months ago

Unsafe... for our margins!

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Did you download it over http instead of https? I know firefox blocks http downloads by default now so I could see chrome doing the same

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago

I'd be very surprised if mozilla.org didn't redirect http to https.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I honestly wasn't paying attention. I just went to the download page.

[–] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

While this could be malice it just as likely could be a complete error. I recently had to download a tool related to x11 on Firefox on windows and it also blocked the download as unsafe. Weirder still, it did this every time I started Firefox until I ended up ditching windows. No idea why.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

iirc there's a mac setting in systems prefs where you can allow apps to be downloaded from the app store or the app store and unverified developers. by default i believe they have it set to app store only. (system prefs > security & privacy > general)

https://www.goodcore.co.uk/blog/how-to-install-apps-on-mac-from-unidentified-developers/

(edit: unverified, in this case, means people who don't pay the apple developer subscription to release in the mac app store)

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The irony. I use Vivaldi Browser now and may consider switching to Fennec if Firefox ever implements tab stacks.

[–] Tum@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What are tab stacks?

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

I use an extension in Firefox for this

[–] Vt1984@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Safari and Firefox are good enough for me, especially since I started using the SSD 3 years ago.

And duckduckgo is good enough too instead of google.

And the free RSS reader NetNewsWire is good enough for me instead of the automated recommendation system of google.

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I've noticed YouTube acting funny in Firefox, too. Full-screen no longer works on our Galaxy Tab A using Firefox with ublock. On my PC, YouTube seems to randomly switch audio devices to output to. Neither of those problems exist in Chrome or the YouTube app. They didn't exist in Firefox either until recently. Almost like it's intentional...

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

This is a bit of an aside, but google releases a lot of security updates for Chrome. Sometimes 2-3 a month. Not sure if Firefox does the same since I only see the notices about Chrome. Not sure if it is a good thing that they fix problems quickly or a bad thing that there are so many problems.

[–] regbin_@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does it show up when you download other .dmg packages?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Nope. Downloaded GIMP and no problem.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

What happens if you download a different executable file?

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