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The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is unable to get a tight grip on live streaming piracy. The company sends out thousands of takedown notices to protect its live broadcasts but nearly a quarter of these remain unaddressed after an hour. UFC calls on online service providers to step up their game, which includes 'instantaneous' takedowns and putting a stop to repeat infringers.

The UFC has promoted mixed martial arts fights for three decades. Today, however, the company is also fighting a battle of its own against online piracy.

Unauthorized views of UFC events have taken off in recent years. The organization is trying to put a stop to these pirated livestreams, but that’s proving to be a drawn-out battle.

Last week, General Counsel Riché McKnight shared UFC’s concerns with lawmakers during a House Judiciary Subcommittee hearing. While site-blocking discussions dominated the hearing, UFC’s comments are worth highlighting separately.

“Watch UFC Free”

McKnight’s testimony describes the piracy problem as widespread and costly. Pirated livestreams can get millions of views and these free alternatives result in lower subscriptions revenues.

The problem isn’t limited to people who record or stream UFC events on their phones. It regularly involves organized crime groups that tap into source signals and rebroadcasts them to profit from the advertising views they generate.

These people also brazenly advertise on social media platforms to attract viewers to their pirate websites, with slogans on social media sites such as “Watch UFC Free,” McKnight notes.

“[T]hey will then post those livestreams and recorded videos to those sites, and those videos will often collect hundreds of thousands or millions of views before they are taken down.”

“Expeditious”

According to UFC, several legislative hurdles prevent the company from being more efficient on the takedown front. They include the relatively ‘slow’ response time to DMCA takedown notices.

Under U.S. copyright law, online services are required to “expeditiously” respond to takedown notices if they want to keep their safe harbor protections. However, the law doesn’t define what the term expeditious entails.

“[Online services] often will claim to us that they are removing content expeditiously even when they allow a livestream to stay up for the entirety of a UFC event or remove recorded content days later,” Knight explains.

It can sometimes take hours or days before online services take action. This is a problem, since the value of UFC recordings and live streams diminishes quickly after the event is over.

The UFC calculated that for each event, it sends an average of 1,173 takedown requests for pirated livestreams and an additional 2,246 takedown requests for recorded content. 26% of the pirated livestreams remained online an hour after the takedown was sent. For recorded UFC content, 74% was still up after an hour.

Instant Takedowns

UFC suggests updating the legislative language to clarify the term “expeditious” as that leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

“This issue can be easily remedied by adding a statutory definition to clarify what ‘expeditiously’ means for the purposes of determining whether OSPs are eligible for a safe harbor from liability based on the infringing conduct of their users.

“Specifically, we believe the law should be clear that, for live events specifically, ‘expeditiously’ means ‘instantaneously’ or ‘near instantaneously’,” McKnight adds.

Replacing it with ‘near instantaneously’ still doesn’t set a specific time limit, of course. But it does suggest that taking more than a day to process a livestreaming takedown notice is too long.

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A copy of the full written testimony from UFC General Counsel Riché McKnight is available here (pdf)

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[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 104 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Maybe if they made their content affordable more people would consider paying for it. Their prices are ridiculous.

[–] Rogers@lemmy.ml 64 points 10 months ago

Exactly, either I watch it free or not at all. No way in hell I'm paying absurd pay per view prices. I just don't care enough about any content (outside of educational content) to pay that much.

Anti piracy groups argue that 1 download/stream = -1 sale which is patently false.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

I don't even like MMA/UFC, but the obvious path is the same as it's always been with PPV shilling: make it cheaper, and people will probably buy it to avoid the hassle of finding it elsewhere.

[–] wccrawford@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If companies can say they can respond to my concerns within 2 business days, then companies can also take 2 business days to take down reported content. It takes a human being to review that stuff and it's not instant. If it was, trolls would end up with everything being taken down. UFC's outrage that it can take "hours" to remove the content is ridiculous.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

On the one hand, I can see why they might complain. Their "projected" losses from piracy probably top 6 or 7 digits. The problem with that logic, of course, is the assumption that people will buy the ppv if the streams aren't available. The guy I know who bounces between streams during a fight always says it'll be a cold day in hell before he pays for the extortion rates the ufc imposes.

But the solution to their problem is definitely not forcing isps to respond instantaneously to dcma requests. I don't even think anyone will take that demand seriously.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Someone just rewrote their script to produce 4 streams instead of 1.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 12 points 10 months ago

I've never even watched UFC and now I want to stream it.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is it possible for the NFL and other sports to be shown on broadcast television and pay their athletes insane amounts of money but the UFC can’t do the same? Make it free and broadcast it on CBS or FOX. Take your money from the advertising and end the stupid PPV greed

[–] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are government decency rules about what can be broadcast on over the air television and i have a feeling people beating the shit out of each other wouldn’t be deemed acceptable. Would be nice, but don’t see it happening.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

But the UFC had a deal with and broadcast fights on FOX. That deal ended in 2018, with 31 UFC on FOX broadcasts and then the UFC signed a deal with ESPN.

So it’s been done before. I think the whole exclusive broadcast contracts they sign are what really limit their potential and they’re still trying to sell PPVs instead of bringing in their money through other channels.

The Reebok, now Venom merchandise isn’t gonna move the needle. The NFL sells more than $4 billion in merchandise annually. I’m not saying the UFC can touch that number, just highlighting that there’s money to be made.

If the UFC followed in the steps of another of Endeavor/TKO Holdings property, WWE, they could run 1-2 weekly shows on broadcast television and then hold PPVs a few times per year and throw massive fights on those cards. Get back into individual fighter merchandise, but produced on the corporate level and sell the hell out of it.

They have over 600 fighters across 11 divisions. They’ve got the workforce and monetary backing to make it all happen.

[–] d1tt0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lol dana can eat my ass. i'll watch pirated streams or i won't watch UFC. pretty simple.

they gotta realize that a majority of the fans, the people who create buzz for the UFC, are people who are unwilling to pay the astronomical price for a diluted card.

also, it's no wonder the UFC & WWE were merged into a shell company owned by dana. they're making a circus out of the UFC to help drive eyeballs. Dana "The Thumb Thumb" White can keep whining to Mr Floop all he wants, i ain't stoppin

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Hated when they bought pride and killed it off...I want pride back damnit

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

UFC will never get my money. Fuck their prices. If their fight pass included the monthly PPVs that'd be a great deal probably.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Hahaha fuck you Dana and your sketchy backers. You never have and will not ever get a cent from me you shady greedy prick.

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 18 points 10 months ago

Suck my dick and balls Dana, what’re you gunna do, punch me?

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why not just make the official stream easier and better than the pirate streams?

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Not as much money if they did that.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

They keep raising the price of PPV's, watering down the cards, and running more ads during an event people already paid for. No wonder people look for streams.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

If UFC wants to change the laws to make takedowns quicker and easier, they should be fine with a compromise where copyright for live sports lasts only a few weeks not a century, right?

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

In the future the UFC will just be giant stacks of money in a ring and people cheering as it burns

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

i too hate when people want to watch the shows i am putting on

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

lol never in my life would I pay for a UFC fight. if I can't pirate it, I'm just not watching it

[–] ByteWizard@lemm.ee -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why do people watch this trash anyway? UFC and boxing is all rigged. It's not even exciting to watch. It's all marketing making you think it's exciting. I hate people.

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

I love you.