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Russia, India closer to joint military equipment production - minister (www.reuters.com)

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MOSCOW, Dec 27 (Reuters) - Russia and India have made tangible progress in talks on plans to jointly produce military equipment, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Wednesday, after talks with his Indian counterpart Subrahmanyam Jaishankar in Moscow.

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[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 27 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I’m always surprised to read the news and see India preferring the Russian partnership over that of the West.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

It’s Modi. Many consider him to be essentially the Indian version of Trump, with all that implies. Including the suspicious Russia ties.

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's prefer one over the other. For India world is not binary. There is a reason it's called third world country, Russian partnership doesn't meant distance from West and western partnership doesn't mean distance from Russia. India doesn't have the luxury to pick sides. It has to keep engaging all global partners.

[–] holdthecheese@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I think it also means that all countries keep it at arms distance. Playing Switzerland has advantages and disadvantages.

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[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

First there are the basics of linguistics since the British and India have a bit of shared history but that has certainly helped India to integrate itself into the western business environment. There are now huge numbers of western countries leveraging outsourcing for business resources and if India keeps distancing itself from the West, those integrations will start to look more like liabilities to western businesses. Next, I can’t imagine that the business opportunities with Russia can rival North American plus the EU so it seems odd to align with Russia when it could jeopardize a very beneficial relationship for India. Finally, due to immigration, there are large populations from India across the entire western hemisphere, I would think that would drive solidarity with the west. I know little about India so maybe those points are not accurate but those are my interpretations.

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 9 points 8 months ago

India is not distancing itself from West, but geopolitics are different for India. West has not been a reliable trading partner in last 8 decades, last decade West has been reliable but that's mostly because now they want to counter China. USSR/Russia has been more reliable.

But if you take a subset of defense trading partner, West has been very unreliable period. If you look at all the corruption scandals in Indian Defense history you'd realise almost all are with the west, France, Sweden, Italy.

Now going back to broader business and economic development, your argument is probably valid, but from the point of view of India, it is in position of most relative strength in geopolitics than it has ever been, if India can play both sides, it will and it must.

If any dealings with Russia were followed by sanction from the west, I think that's when you'd see who does India favor more. But west won't do it, because West needs India to be strong to counter China and if the cost is delayed fall of Putin, I think west is willing to take that risk, since Russia is no longer the threat it was to the west 3 decades ago.

So, from Indian's point of view if it can both have a cake and eat it too, why would it not?

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

West has not been a dependable partner to any country in Asia or Africa.

Russia though is a bully, is a local bully and has bloodied his nose in his bullying rather than other way round. One thing that has never happened is that it has never vanished.

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

So the whole thing about colonization is actually not a biggie for India after all?