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[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 101 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Honestly after the Cyberpunk debacle I can easily see why, the decisions that led to that were almost certainly made by marketing and C-Suite and not the devs. Someone correct me if that’s wrong. If they actually learn from those mistakes I have no doubt they’ll reclaim the rep they had after the Witcher 3

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Honestly they've already reclaimed a lot of rep fixing cyberpunk, especially after the 2.0 update.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think they’ve done a great job with that and I really enjoyed Cyberpunk, I mean more with the vast majority of the public there’s still gonna be a stigma whether it’s fair or not. That debacle was really damn visible, undoing that damage in totality is gonna take a new release without those major issues imo

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

I'm hoping the stigma we see, towards cdpr and literally every other game dev studio, is people stop preordering shit. Problem solved, devs get money when we get a good game.

[–] troydowling@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I picked it up on the Steam winter sale. Been waiting to play this one for so long and can't wait!

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

I'm currently enjoying it and yeah it's pretty fucking good :)

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I haven't really played cyberpunk at all even though I own the game

Is it even worth playing ?

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 months ago

It's what a Bethesda game would be if they gave a shit.

So yeah, especially if you already own it.

[–] MajesticSloth@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

I think it absolutely is. I played it a bit at launch and didn't find it near as bad as others but still set it aside. Started it fresh again with the expansion, and I had such a blast with it. You own it, so I see no reason not to a least give it a try.

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Oh, absolutely, it's a completely different experience now than on launch. It's a properly good RPG nowadays, although your choices don't matter much in the storyline.

[–] _Lory98_@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago

Yea it's worth playing now. It's not a masterpiece, but it's fun enough.

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

It was still a good game at launch, just buggy and didn't live up to expectations.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Yes. Absolutely. It IS a masterpiece at this point. So much of the game has changed since release that it's like, barely the same game compared to release, and all of it for the better (except fixing the super speed with krez big, that was just fun cdpr whhyyyyy)

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[–] Kraivo@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They will not. What happened with Cyberpunk happened with Gwent before and nobody gave a single fuck.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 8 months ago

The side game they slapped together in three days because people liked a mini game a lot?

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] kwozyman@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

The top level management: CEO, CFO, CTO etc. Basically, the big bosses.

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[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i think that's a smart move on their part.

the CP2077 launch was rocky, but most of their previous games haven't had that level of hype. The Witcher 3 taking off like it did, gave them the confidence to go bigger. CP2077 is in a great place now, even if it didn't start that way.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Honestly, maybe they're just playing hard to get in order to raise the offer?

"Sure maybe we're worth about that... but think about what we might be worth in a few years."

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago

I'm still sad about Gwent, though. The only reasonably priced CCG I've played, with beautiful artwork and fun decks.

As soon as Marvel Snap dropped, it sucked out whatever remaining air the game had left and even the smaller streamers dropped out of sight.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 8 months ago (21 children)

They're almost certainly right.

Cyberpunk wasn't received well, but they seem to have No Man's Sky'd it into some sort of shape since.

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[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 29 points 8 months ago

It would be nice if the entire world didn't consolidate into two mega corps. Good on CDR for having their own vision.
CP2077 + Phantom Liberty are excellent. I just started a new playthrough. I wish it had released in this shape.

[–] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good. Not every studio needs to be snatched up by a massive corporation. Embracer's yearlong meltdown is a great example of how that can end badly.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Every company that gets bought by another corporation either cranks out a few good games and then dies, or cranks out an okay game and then dies. The eventual outcome is always death.

Bullfrog, Raven, Westwood Studios, Bioware, Origin, Maxis, Viceral Games, all of them.

[–] Zibitee@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You can add blizzard to that list. That merger practically killed the studio anyway

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I doubt it. They laid off 9 percent of the staff this July. That's far away from the 2077 launch. I would guess it's after the majority of Phantom Liberty's development is done.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Layoffs are only a bad sign for workers. For the owners and investors, it's the standard strategy for growth.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Layoffs are only a bad sign for workers. For the ~~owners and investors~~ parasites, it’s the standard strategy for growth.

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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Excellent. I'm eager to see the doings.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 11 points 8 months ago

they need to fire their whole ai department and theyll be flying lmfao

[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I believe it. Lessons learned and all

[–] gnubyte@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

oh I thought MSFT already owned them. I guess not.

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[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Please correct me if I *have the wrong impression here but how much does a sentiment like this matter if some big bethesda shaped behemoth makes the moves to acquire? Wouldnt business sense dictate that you sell if the offer is juicy enough?

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Maybe the owners care more about running a sustainable company that makes good games than they do about getting a bunch of money.

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[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The videogame world is weird. Say you are a small buisness in a miner town making cast and hardened steel parts for mining equipment. If a big manufacturer comes around and offers to buy you out, your alternative to saying "yes" is them, opening up their own buisness and driving your sales into the ground with cheaper offers. But if Bethesda says to CD Project RED "Either you accept the acquisition or we are going to make better games." CDPR can just say "Haha, good luck."

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[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Fucking Based

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