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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 115 points 6 months ago (2 children)

“They asked me why I didn’t approve [friend requests], and why I deleted and blocked people on Facebook and Instagram,”

What an insane thing to be questioned about by police.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 47 points 6 months ago

Welcome to Palestine. In a way she's lucky she wasn't imprisoned just for being Palestinian.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

where is the "literally 1984" crowd now

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

Literally 1984ed

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 72 points 6 months ago

Israeli apologists love to remind us how democratic Israel is. This is China-levels of censorship.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Since the Hamas-led October 7 attack, Israeli authorities have conducted a major crackdown on freedom of expression, usually in relation to social media posts. Dozens of Palestinian citizens of Israel and residents of Jerusalem have been arrested for voicing opposition to the war, while Israel’s academic institutions have suspended and dismissed students and faculty members alike for similar offenses. The Knesset also voted to amend Israel’s Counterterrorism Law, enabling unprecedented surveillance against Palestinians.

Jailing people for speaking out against the war? Sounds like Russia. I think Genocide Joe has backed the wrong side in the conflict.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 53 points 6 months ago (7 children)

It would be pretty difficult to do that considering the US government has been giving Israel billions a year in aid a long time before Joe Biden was President, and the vast majority of other US politicians support Israel as well. But sure, blame it on Biden I guess, maybe we can elect Trump, who will probably be asking his staff "why can't we just kill all the Palestinians with the nuclear?"

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot Biden could have done- and a fair amount that he could simply have not done.

Like, he could not vow unconditional support for genocidal maniacs. but, you know, details are unimportant. That other politicians also support Israel doesn't mean it's inappropriate to call Biden out for that.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

It's such a crappy situation that there's no way he could win. Anything other than siding with Israel would lead to claims of anti-semitism and criticism from the very powerful Isreal lobby, not to mention Republicans. A more nuanced position would be better, sure, but I don't know how politically feasible it is in the US. We can definitely criticize Biden but "Genocide Joe" always strikes as stupid especially since it's bashing Biden at a time when making him less popular would give us Genocide Donald, who would clearly be so much worse.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

Anything other than siding with Israel would lead to claims of anti-semitism and criticism from the very powerful Isreal lobby, not to mention Republicans.

I'm not sure of that actually.

  1. By far not all American Jews are Israel supporters in this case.

  2. Not all Republicans as well.

  3. There needs to be some way to raise their voice for those who are heavily against what's happening, which will give such a turn lots of supporters.

And, of course, I hope you do understand that people yelling about anti-semitism in this case are different from people yelling about "white genocide" in only one aspect - they are defending mass murder happening right now, while the latter are just relatively harmless racists.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (11 children)

“It’s okay that your president supports genocide because like, it could be worse and like, people might say mean things.”

Is that even really an argument? I don’t think accusations of antisemitism hold much water when the accusers are using it to literally defend genocide. Biden decided to run for (and won,) the presidency. He can put his big boy pants on and serve Americans and our interests. Or… he could continue to serve the interests of foreign governments.

As you say, he’s gonna catch flak either way. Might as well be on the right side of history.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Where do you get "people might say mean things"? One of those reductions where someone acts like Trump being derogatory, inflammatory, thin skinned, insulting and lying is just silly little 'mean things'? Obviously I mean that Trumps' actions would be the same or worse, not 'saying mean things', though that is also significant. His inflammatory rhetoric and inconsistency does affect international relations.

Anyway, it's hard to find a national politician in the US who doesn't side with Israel. I agree it would be nice if Biden took a more neutral stance, but Congress are the ones who appropriate money for Israel, not the President.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Anything other than siding with Israel would lead to claims of anti-semitism and criticism from the very powerful Isreal lobby, not to mention Republicans

we all know that the accusations of antisemitism- in this case- are blatant bullshit.

Anyway, it’s hard to find a national politician in the US who doesn’t side with Israel. I agree it would be nice if Biden took a more neutral stance, but Congress are the ones who appropriate money for Israel, not the President.

As for appropriations, once again: that other people support genocidal behavior in a foreign goverment does not justify the president also supporting said genocidal behavior. We can hold everyone to higher standards. as for how hard it is to find politicians that don't... it's actually not that hard. There's more out there than you seem to think. Cori Bush, André Carson, Jesús García, Raúl Grijalva, Marie Newman, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, and Rashida Tlaib, all voted against funding on the oct. 10th. Also Thomas Massie, though his explanation was that he's opposed to all foreign aid...

There's also growing calls by other politicans to not provide military support but continue other forms of aid (notably humanitarian aid).

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[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Israel makes Russia look humane

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the Russia stuff was bad, but Israel IIRC surpassed the civilian death toll from the entire Ukrainian conflict in the first couple of days.

Part of this is probably due to Gaza not having air défenses, but still.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 19 points 6 months ago

Most of it has to do with Gaza being a tiny open air prison, with no where to escape from the 'front line'.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 9 points 6 months ago

Gaza is also much more compact and densely populated than most of Ukraine.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Russia is also, literally committing genocide, there isn't a better here.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Theres definitely a faster one though.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And there’s definitely a larger one.

Let’s not try to compete over which genocide is better than the other. That’s a silly game.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

No one said it's better, but casualties and occupation time are pretty indisputable and if you think both of those are genocides, one is happening a lot faster. That's why Russia ends up looking 'humane' in comparison. All genocides are horrible, not all genocides are equally impactful and I don't think it really helps anyone to ignore that, at the very least not when the two in question are ongoing.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago

They're objectively worse at it, so there's a silver lining there?

[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh no. I'm not comparing two genocidal countries. It's just funny how they are "comparable" and the Western world has one of the worst sanctions against one while they are funding the other.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"The bastion of democracy in the middle east." 🙃

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[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago

Apartheid state apartheid’s

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago

Right to jail. Right away.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 39 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I love how you don't see the Zionists on posts like these.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They are all busy in the story about hamas killing a boy that been reported only by one channel that even other Israeli news didn't verify or reported on.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I doubt Hamas would ever kill a child. They're not Israeli, after all.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And God said: "Just nuke the place. Let me try again."

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago

that does sound like yahweh

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[–] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 6 months ago

"free speech"

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is a weird story from a weird source. Not saying it isn't true but this is one of those posts that makes me want to know the source a bit better before Believing anything about it

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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Average capitalist bootlickers. Social media was a mistake

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes. It was. It still is, but it was also.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Hey there Mitch at home.

[–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

Inception happened in the past?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

But you see it's not apartheid because she's not a citizen of Israel. And this is just one more isolated case of a few bad apples.

Also why did she block them? Did she have something to hide?

And then even if she has nothing to hide, why was she mean and hurt the police's feelings?

And then finally, she's a filthy Arab, how dare she wants to become a doctor? She will probably use scalpels to murder honest Israelis.

/S

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Nazi's gonna Nazi

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 months ago

How the fuck is it anyone's business what someone does with their own social media account? Also, what would have happened if she had never even made account there?

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