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[–] Big_Boss_77@kbin.social 77 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Teach him to use it and send him down the path of one of the most frustrating career paths in existence...

Developer: Hey, I think the network is broken

Network Engineer: Okay, lemme check 30 seconds later nope, looking good, what's up?

Developer: There's a network issue, I ran this new code and lost everything.

NE: That's... not really how the network works...

Dev: I'm a Developer, I know how the network works.

NE: Really...? Do you know how servers work?

Dev: Yes, of course. ..

NE: Then why didn't you look that your code crashed the VM you were using and you need to restart it...

Dev: ...so it was a network issue?

NE: ...

Dev: to other Devs Hey guys, don't worry, it was a network issue, but I got them to do their job for once and fix it.

NE: resumes recreational liver destruction

[–] qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 11 months ago

After setting up my own network, and trying to (kinda sorta) do it the right way (multiple SSIDs, vlan segregation, restrictive firewalls for iot, VPN to a VPS, etc.)


I have so much respect for network engineers. First month with my new router, felt like I "broke the Internet" every other day.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

As a developer who knows enough about networking and servers to know when I'm out of my depth, I'm sorry for my colleague. If it's any consolation we all think they are an idiot as well

[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Or he could go it operations where every day is "a bad day to stop sniffing glue" because you are the only thing keeping the house of cards up while dev and network squabble over who's foot cannon broke shit this time.

[–] Crow@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Networking has to be the most confusing and tedious IT work I’ve ever done. I still don’t fully understand all the basics of security. But by far the worst part is that troubleshooting can’t be done like normal programming. Network troubleshooting takes forever, and all you get is a working network. Network work feels so dull even I have a hard time seeing my effort.

No kidding. There's no debugger. You can't just set a breakpoint and see what's going on under the hood. It's more like playing Russian roulette and hoping you don't bring the whole network down.

It's messing with the wiring while it's still hot and there often isn't a better way to do it.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Those last couple of steps actually involve a shotgun and condolences to the devs family. Take no shit.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It is too real man

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 49 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My 14 yo would be stoked. He’s right into networking tech. Doesn’t really care about Nintendo.

[–] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I wish I was into networking at 14, I'd be making more money now. That's a great start he's got

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

We were all into networking when I was young. Had to make Lan parties and UT servers work somehow.

Everyone still ended up working factory / distribution jobs lol.

[–] Lophostemon@aussie.zone 6 points 11 months ago

Me too, but it didn’t really exist when I was 14.

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[–] rem26_art@kbin.social 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

theres a chance that thing cost more than a Nintendo Switch

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pretty damn good chance tbh. I know I can’t afford that thing.

[–] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Hmm...that one's probably around 150 gently used.

[–] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would be pissed if I got a 10/100 catalyst switch too.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not Santa's fault, he's thousands of years old so he probably had his IT stack built out ages ago and never bothered to consider upgrades so he just assumed that 10/100 was still state of the art!

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's probably using cloud services, makes sense, why build out infra he'll have to manage 365 when he basically needs it 2 months a year?

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 5 points 11 months ago

Anyone got any idea on data retention requirements for Lapland?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Aha, that's why I never get what I want for Christmas: classic ASP.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

You might end up with an asp instead!

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only 2x SFP cages? I'd be pissed too. And I bet they're only 1gbps

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

looks like an early cisco 3400

10/100, so youre prolly on the money there for sale!

[–] iwasgodonce@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

DS-lite

switch

n(at)64

what networking term will they use for the next one? ndp?

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

DNS: Double Nintendo Switch

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[–] MxM111@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

Guy’s thoughts: “I asked for a switch, but I got a router!”

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Better than a light switch.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

What about a heavy switch?

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Alright now hook that shit up to the router, don't forget to create a LAG or you'll create a broadcast storm, and I'm in a WoW raid in ten minutes so make it fast.

[–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are you just throwing networking terms together? How does a LAG prevent a switching loop?

LAG are aggregated interfaces and they can indeed be used to prevent (some) layer 2 loops. LAG as in Link Aggregation Group)

Using 2 non-LAG interfaces between the same 2 devices creates a loop.
In the case of a loop, if you're running spanning tree, one of these interface will be blocking instead of forwarding, preventing the loop, but also percentile the use of this interface until the topology changes (ie: the current one goes down).
If you're not running spanning tree for some reason, then both interface will chug along, oblivious to the fact that there's a loop and broadcast packets will indeed keep being flooded on one and received on the other, again flooded, etc. creating a broadcast storm and impacting performance of the whole layer 2 domain and possibly even crashing devices.

A LAG more or less means the interfaces in the group behave as one big (aggregated) interface.
LAG also means you can push traffic on both interfaces for more bandwidth.

Source: ~~Network engineer~~ Internet plumber

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't.

The assumption is that they're creating a high bandwidth trunk interface to the L3 switch/router, so if they forget to create an aggregate it'll be two independent interfaces and will down the network (or a port will auto down itself with STP, MSTP, etc. but that's not as funny)

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[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

So that's why Nintendo uploaded that video explaining the Switch after 7 years selling it.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Had I gotten this, I'd be ecstatic. Networking was always a mystery to me and I loved playing with networking services.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Lol I would've been pumped if I got this as a kid

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago

First out-loud laugh of the day. Love it.

[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please don't show us what a Wii would look like.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Don't kinkshame!

[–] ares35@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

i got a cat toy one year instead of a computer mouse. my mom thought it was hilarious.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That is such a 90s couch. :o

[–] Fleamo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I asked for a switch and all I got was a vers.

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