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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Looks like those guys will shoot anyone. With such a gross power imbalance how can they be so scared of everything?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/16/middleeast/what-we-know-hostages-killed-israel-gaza/index.html

IDF destroyed Israeli homes (with Israelis inside) when Hamas raided them on Oct 7, and now they are indiscriminantly bombing Gaza, including where the hostages might be. I don't see the logic at all. It seems like they don't care about Palestinian OR Israeli civilians.

EDIT: I just stumbled upon this video, which shows Israeli police arresting a (black) Israeli soldier for trying to cross the street. It seems racist af. I really can't figure out who they are protecting.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Civilian life was never a priority

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a hard sell to say that it was.

Israel: We are using surgical strikes and guided missles to uproot Hamas.

† 15,000 people killed †

World: So you specifically targeted all those 15,000 people?

Israel: How could you be so anti-semitic??

Narrator: Turns out they were actually not trying to minimize civilian casualties at all.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, it's not about targeting Hamas. It's about killing as many Palestinians and destroying as much of Gaza as possible. They said so themselves

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Yes it is, just not in the way it usually is. ENDING civilian lives is very much a priority of their genocidal campaign.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s a military force full of conscripts it’s not a surprise they operate at an amateur level. These guys aren’t trained to rescue hostages they are only trained to shoot. There is a reason why most countries have gotten rid of conscription. Conscripted soldiers are nowhere near the level of a vetted and trained volunteer

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

There is a saying: "The worst volunteer is better than the best conscript".

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

So... they don't even teach what white flags mean?

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's what bothers me most: the incidence shows how Israeli military treats civilians in general but at least where I live, media doesn't talk about the implications. The coverage is more critical than at the beginning of the war but they still refuse to call it a genocide.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Hell, they even censured a Palestinian-American congresswoman for pointing out that obvious fact!

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Take a look at this. It's a bunch of testimoniess from IDF soldiers about what happened when theie military ran similar operations in 2014. Looks like this is generally how the IDF operates.

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/pdf/ProtectiveEdge.pdf

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 10 months ago

This is insane. How could Hamas publish this?

/s

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"That's exactly what Hamas would say!"

  • IDF
[–] iraq_lobster@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago
[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Children are just stunted Hamas fighters.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You would kill Hitler as a child. Knowing what he would become?

/S

[–] iraq_lobster@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

if i were concerned, i would

~~/S~~

[–] iraq_lobster@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

exactly. those pesky children are easy to be radicalized; they have barely spent time learning anything at school, so they can't really tell the bluff.

watch al jazeera for instance (a qatari MSM): hamas propaganda 24/7. qataris probably have stakes in this too by reselling arms, so it helps to keep the flame alive ( they would spend hours rebroadcasting the death of this 'hero' journalist in the battlefield, while in fact its lucrative that such people die to always have exclusive material to broadcast, its like a Marvel movie, but with real casualties ).

arms production is a lucrative business right now.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Popular meme on the Chinese internet apparently

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 10 months ago

Is that Netanyahu, King of Queens?

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I am kinda in a pickle now, can't even advance the argument of "they look where they shoot" 🤔 come on IDF you can do better!