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[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 138 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Cable execs: I see your point. In 2024 we'll be introducing trash reality shows that feature the weather.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago (4 children)

They don't even need to feature the weather. TLC stands for The Learning Channel and no one learns anything from their shows.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The only thing you learn from TLC is that you don't want to watch TLC

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[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

That's absolutely not true. I've learned that I may be messy sometimes, but at least I'm not walking through goat paths of garbage. I've learned that I may be a bit of a fuck up that enjoys recreational drugs, but at least I'm not walking on sunshine. And I've learned that I may be bit overweight, but at least I'm not bed-ridden and disappointing my doctor. I always feel better about myself after watching a TLC show.

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I legit always thought it was Tender Loving Care.

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[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

✨️enshitification✨️

[–] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

This is the best use of this emoji, ever.

[–] mathterdark@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Cartoon Network then: cartoons

Cartoon Network now: Teen Titans Go! on repeat

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Jesus Christ, I just looked at their schedule there's a total of 7 hours of TTG per day. Where's the Adventure Time? Where's the Billy and Mandy? Where's Ed, Edd, n' Eddy!?

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago

It's seriously infuriating, the catalog they have at their disposal and they just rerun TTG, a show that at the time caused TT fans to be legitimately upset. No one wanted TTG.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

there's a total of 7 hours of TTG per day

Holy shit, I've seen the memes but I just naturally assumed they were exaggerated... That's actually ridiculous

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There is actually a lot of nuance to this.

  1. If TTG stops producing content then their rights to the IP can expire, same reason Sony had to make new Spiderman and X-Men films every other year last decade.

  2. Changes in leadership and management to Cartoon Network are frequent and often produce a more straight-cut and less innovative direction for the network, the sort of people that institutional stock holders and WarnerMedia management think are the safe options: data analysts, cost minimizers, tough negotiators.

  3. For the above reason and more, many artists stopped wanting to work with the corporation, and new artists are aware of the issues plaguing the company so they also don't want to touch it. For example, Rebecca Sugar faced a struggle just to continue Steven Universe, one of their more successful titles, but eventually she was forced to wrap it up and leave. Twice.

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[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is incorrect. There is also reality tv on the weather channel.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Coming up next "See which wildly underpaid ~~intern~~ meteorologists bite the dust this time. Coming at you live from inside the storm"

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[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

TV in the US is so weird. I mean, we've got all of that in Europe too (on some channels), but whenever I watch American TV, everything seems to be cranked up to 11. The aggressive of your news shows, the quantity of your advertisements, the weird rules from the middle ages (no swearing or nudity on certain channels), etc.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

And the Pharma commercials?! It's insane, if I want a pill I go to the doctor/pharmacy say I have a headache they will prescribe some shit and I will pick it up, why would I need a commercial for that?

[–] Elderos@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

American here. I stopped watching "TV" about 15 years ago, and have streamed just about everything ever since. I'm also exposed to a lot less advertising now and my life is better for it.

Watching television at family/friends house feels like traveling to a foreign country. It's exactly like you describe. I don't recognize any of it anymore.

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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 27 points 9 months ago (4 children)

MTV has been all over those "reality" shows and candidate shows since at least the late 90s though.

Hey, I'm Bam Magera and this is Jackass Roomraiders where Xibit builds flat screens into your entire house for no reason after we had a hot girl go through all your embarrassing shit while you waited in a car of some kind outside watching together with your adversaries who go absolutely apeshit about anything that happens, also UV sperm detection light.
NEXT

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yep. Although it still did music videos for at least a few hours a day until the 2000s. VH1 was a holdout for a longer time. Does that Canadian MuchMusic channel even exist anymore? We got that when I used to have DirecTV. It had a fun early low budget MTV feel to it which I knew was not destined to last.

[–] proctonaut@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Watching headbanger's ball when I got out of work in 06/07 is a fond memory.

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[–] bangupjobasusual@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago

The weather channel now is ads.

[–] mdd@lemm.ee 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Reality TV is cheaper to produce than scripted shows. Profit is the reason all they show is reality shows.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it is really funny how many people are putting out documentary quality output on YouTube.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 22 points 9 months ago

The Gold Diggers and Gold-Diggers caught me off guard, that's funny.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago (4 children)

How is there possibly this much market for this shit?

[–] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

It happened during the 08 writers strike. Reality Tv is cheap to produce and requires minimal writing.

[–] Letto@reddthat.com 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I have a feeling it has more to do with low production cost than anything else sadly :/

milleNNialS Are kiLLiNg cAblE

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Lowest common denominator does better, casts the widest net and the morons eat it up

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[–] plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Youtube in has done a remarkably good job carrying the torch of high quality documentaries and educational content beyond the realm of traditional media. Science, art, technology, history. It's all there, and much of it meets or exceeds the quality of anything the old guard of cable TV channels ever managed to produce.

I'm actually only now realizing that some of the most established channels have been reaching a wide audience with consistent and high quality content for the better part of a decade, and yet I can't think of any who have successfully broken into more "traditional" media such as television or or even streaming services. That seems exceptionally strange to me. I mean, last month there were headlines about Netflix giving $55 million to an unproven director who proceeded to blow it all on expensive cars instead of filming the show he was hired to make. Who decides to hire that guy over any number of youtube creators who have spent the last ten years cranking out a short video a week along with occasional longer form projects, all with a small crew on a shoestring budget. I can imagine three possible reasons for this. No idea which one(s) could be the real reason, or if there's something else entirely going on.

  1. Hollywood^1^ is so insular that they don't even realize these people exist.
  2. Hollywood is so stuck in its ways that they refuse to believe these people could be successful running a larger production.
  3. Offers have been made, but those offers have been so restrictive that any number of youtubers have turned them down despite, one would assume, a large amount of money being on the table if they go along with it.

That last one in particular seems unlikely, but I do recall that the popular Primitive Technology channel went quiet for a year or more before abruptly coming back to life. Rumors swirled that he had been hired to turn the concept into a TV show, but the production company kept trying to change things and he eventually gave up and went back to doing it his way on youtube.

^1^ used here as shorthand for the more corporate and structured entertainment industry at large.

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[–] omega_x3@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Weather channel has trash shows about surviving weather events

[–] clipper@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Yeah I get that the weather channel is the punch line here but let's not act like it hasn't also gone to shit

[–] Banzai51@midwest.social 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I used to love A&E when it was biographies and Lovejoy.

The major TV networks were so embarrassed by being outproduced in quality by these niche cable networks that they raised the level of their programing to match. LOL, no. They bought out all the niche cable TV channels and turned them into trash. Hurray Capitalism.

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[–] Kase@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The weather is pretty trash, but it's not the weather channel's fault :/

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[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't Bravo originally for performing arts? I thought it used to show theater productions and stuff like that.

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[–] CowsLookLikeMaps@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

In the 80s, if you got up really early, like 5 am, Discovery would sometimes just put a camera on a professor giving a lecture. It was pretty cool. I guess we have YouTube for that sort of thing now, but you even make a suggestion like that to a Discovery executive now and they'd probably try to murder you.

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[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Gen alpha: What are "TV channels?"

[–] prettydarknwild@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TLC is the 21st century version of the freak shows

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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

C-Span then: empty chairs

C-Span now: empty chairs

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[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

And one show being split up across multiple streaming services with only a few seasons on each service is why i have a jellyfin server now

Cable also ruined streaming services

[–] BurnSquirrel@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I'm old enough to remember when discovery showed space stuff like, all the time. It was great!

It really changed in the 90s when congress pulled public funding for educational TV

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

David Zaslav is the common denominator across all these examples, and now he's in charge of Warner Bros...

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

The history channel also has Nazi documentaries.

Edit: I just checked their line up, as I haven't been anywhere cable was playing for years. They're doing one show per day now, it's an all day marathon of either Ancient Aliens, Pawn Stars, The UnXplained (bigfoot, etc.), American Pickers (literally a reality show about trash) or Mountain Men (seems to be a reality show about some dudes in Alaska).

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[–] catfish@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Gold-diggers have it real good, two areas of influence

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

All of that is on streaming, and worse.

A lot of TV has always just been a way to fill the gaps between the adverts as cheaply as possible. Moving from 4 channels to 200 didn't increase the amount of stuff you could watch, it just spread it all over the place.

It ate itself, streaming is going the same way. Maybe they'll eventually catch on and have a service that contains every movie and TV show (once they've finished in the theatre, and past the Blu-ray/Pay-per-view part of their lifespan where people will pay for it individually), for like £30 a month, and it can be like Spotify and the other music services. A Kaleidescape for poor people. Until then I've gone back to mostly yarring it for any new stuff, and using a Jellyfin server.

Nobody wants a dozen services to look through, even if they did have more money than sense.

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[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

All their good content is moved to the streaming services. why make less money being bundled on cable when you can charge people whatever for the content and make way more? At least that’s why I think the content on cable is trash at the moment

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

It was trash long before that.

Discovery, History and TLC used to all show educational programming. TLC actually stands for The Learning Channel.

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[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 7 points 9 months ago

So disappointed to hear about what happened to Discovery channel. Though their Youtube channel is still amazing!

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