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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If you were an all knowing all powerful god who supposedly loves everyone unconditionally, would you create a fiery pit and send people there for all eternity?

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't understand. I touched my peepee. I deserve this.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I murdered 50 people. But then I found Jesus, so I'm going to heaven. This is fair.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

I'm a member of an uncontacted tribe, and was going to go to heaven for being completely ignorant of Jesus, but now that you told me about him, I'm going to hell if I don't convert.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I literally murdered by son and offered my daughters to be raped by the entire town. I’m going to heaven!

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biblically accurate incel or something, idk I skipped the book to the end

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah you missed out on god sending bears to maul children to death for mocking a man’s hair.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I just wanted to screenshot the part where a guy claimed a woman as a prize for collecting foreskins

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

God never loved anyone unconditionally. My favorite Bible quote:

Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me. ...whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me. — Matthew 25:41–43 (NIV)

He very explicitly hates selfish people. VERY specifically these people, spoken by Jesus, this group of people are damned to hell. Gays, never spoken of by Jesus, btw.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Of course! They ate shrimps!

[–] Thaumiel@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The fiery pit/dante's hell version doesn't actually exist in the bible. The main thing about hell is you don't experience god's love/presence, which is weird but a lot better than an eternity of torture.

[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

If you experience god's presence please consult with your psychiatrist, I'm not joking lol

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

People who think God has talked to them are just people who really sure about a thought they had

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

That's wild. Have you tried DMT?

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I'm just referring to what's in the bible, I'm agnostic. (Incidentally, I only became agnostic after reading the book of job)

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

What about the post right above you?

into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

God's love seems a little temperamental and reserved for some nasty people. I think I'm good on God's love.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Oh he is, but that post above is Mathew talking.

The example Id use is the book of Job. Basically Satan and God conspire to make a faithful guy's life horrible.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

So why have churches been threatening their victims with hell for centuries? Could it be they all make it up as they go along?

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago

The rest of the stuff you said isn’t in the Bible either

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who has the power to put you there for eternity probably has the power to make it so you don't get used to it

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

At what point does it stop being a punishment and just all you've ever experienced?

Like how would they make it so you don't get use to it? Erase your memory every 10 minutes? Sounds like the end of those 10 minutes is relief. So all you've ever experienced is 10 minutes of pain than relief. Doesn't sound so bad. Even if all you ever remembered was the memories of your past life and then 10 mins of pain at least you would have those good memories to reflect on before you would have relief again.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You're trying to corporealize a concept that is fundamentally non-corporeal. An omnipotent being could make eternal suffering mean suffering eternally simply by virtue of being all-powerful. The means by which this is done is (would be) completely beyond our understanding or even able to be conceived by our current understanding of the world.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world -5 points 10 months ago

.... no, that's your interpretation of what I said. I asked a straight forward question and you put your own spin on it.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

A little bit of the salt of relief can bring out the sweetness of suffering

[–] delitomatoes@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a modern story about how Sisyphus got used to rolling the boulder and found joy in the nuances and being swole?

[–] probablynaked@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I love this interpretation lmao

[–] NAXLAB@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Assuming there's enough supernatural power to sustain a torture pit of fire for all eternity, It's probably trivial to just have you suffer non-stop regardless of any hypothetical limits.

However, even in real life pain receptors are distinct receptors in your body that don't dull themselves after a while, the way our smell and sight receptors do

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago

pain receptors are distinct receptors in your body that don't dull themselves after a while

Man, that's some bullshit.

Come on Body, can't you just have some, like, nice things that aren't purely functional?

[–] 474D@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure chronic pain even in regular life is a thing.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ok but chronic pain happens what, 100 years max?

Now that times infinity....

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 6 points 10 months ago

I mean your senses would adapt to it which means you would die.

As you cannot die as you are invincible, your nerves cannot take damage. But that would mean your brain would overstimulate and that also cannot take damage.

So either you stay in constant pain, which has to get lower and lower as you cant handle constant pain (legalize Cannabis for those people for fucks sake).

So I guess yes, to stay invincible you have to get used to it.

Or you have pain and damage, but that state resets like all the time. So you would stay in a state of immediate pain, without remembering the past, as it has to be removed entirely, as that pain will harm your brain.

So you would stay in immediate pain without a sense of time, which is probably way way less extreme than you imagine it but still horrible.

So people, just dont believe that crap. When you die its over, and that may be an even harder truth to accept.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not real. Could be anything

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 10 months ago

Firey pits are real. But you only need to worry about them while you're alive, not after you die. Unless of course you don't wanna be cremated.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

All I'm saying is if you expiernced anything for eternity would your understanding of pain or even pleasure have any meaning at all?

[–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does the concept of eternity have any meaning at all? It's a very philosophically nebulous thing when taken beyond a superficial level. We can't fathom existing for a huge number of years anymore than we can conceive being the size of the universe. Spiritually being eternally cast into fire could mean to be removed from the being that is everything which is to be nothing forevermore. Or eternity can just mean until the end of time, which could very well be finite.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

I think if Christians advertised no after life as punishment some might find it a pleasant thought. To stop existing... there is no fear in it. It's our drive for survival that created fear. There is no sorrow in it there is no need for sorrow or happiness because nothingness doesn't have chemical fueled emotions.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

Depends on a whole lot of factors, most of which we don’t even know we don’t know. Presumably, they believe that an all powerful being would find it easy to make sure to maximize the suffering.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not getting used to it IS the punishment

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But how? Like I'm not saying you won't feel pain or won't suffer but if we're talking all of time that is just your state of being having known nothing else.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 7 points 10 months ago

IDK dude it's shit some guys in the desert came up with, probably while high