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[–] Meltrax@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Blows my mind how this isn't just the most cut and dry logical answer ever.

Is the president immune from prosecution under the law? No. No one is. That's the point of the laws. If a leader is fully immune they are a dictator.

And fuck it, even if you're insane and think Trump would be a good King of the US, if this gets passed then there's no precedent stopping Biden saying at the end of his term "no, I'm staying, screw you". That is terrible regardless of your political standing.

[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Screw waiting for an election. If the SC states that a sitting President is immune from law, the current President should simply point this out to everybody (so we're clear here) and cancel the upcoming election. Leave plenty of time for the SC to backpedal so the elections actually do happen, but then Trump can be prosecuted.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Or even better, the sitting President can start hunting Supreme Court Justices for sport.

You know, since there's no law saying he can't.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well damn if that's the new job expectation then I really think the president is too old for duty. I vote for The Rock.

[–] bane_killgrind@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Deepfake Biden into one of the adaptations of The Most Dangerous Game and we'll have a movie night

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

King of the US

If it's going to be anyone, it's gotta be King Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago

I mean, if we're gonna have a king at all, I'd vote Charles III over this POS. And that's saying something.

Maybe we could just rescind our independence. Our problems become shared problems. Nothing really improves, but it becomes more socially acceptable for me and the boys to cry into pints every night.

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's indeed a bit crazy but it highlights a need we have in legislation to properly spell out enforcement. Gone are the days when it was enough to have a gentleman's agreement to report and act on certain transgressions. Now, sadly, the default action is to ignore and deny until the issue goes away and it works far too often.

[–] Meltrax@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Our current law system also vastly benefits those who can spend millions on lawyers.

[–] pm_me_your_quackers@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Saw a thread yesterday where people were happy cause they think the Supreme Court is going to tell him to get fucked.

I say I wish I still had that child-like optimism.

They only fuck poor people.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m willing to bet that if they do cover for him, they’ll limit the scope so severely that it only applies to this specific case, and sets no precedent.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

You mean like Bush v Gore which explicitly said it could never be used as a precedent, and yet commonly is?

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

On the flip side, Jack Smith has been incredibly thorough. He wouldn't ask if he didn't have a backup plan.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

What backup plan is possible if scotus grants him blank immunity? I think his thinking was just to speed things up since it's going to end up there anyways.

[–] pm_me_your_quackers@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I'll concede on that point. I still don't trust it though.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right, the Supreme Court that Trump personally appointed?

They don't care about law, the Constitution, or fairness, it's just 100% about party politics these days.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, but granting the president too much immunity lessens the relative power of the Supreme Court. They would not want that.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you imagine the precedent this would set?

"I want to be a dictator. Just kidding. Nanananana you can't touch me"

[–] bradv@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nothing in the constitution that says we can't have a dictator.

  • Supreme Court, probably
[–] medicsofanarchy@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fine! The moment they rule this, Biden should step up and take the position. See how quickly they backpedal.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

This is so true. I’m just so happy he hasn’t taken Trump up on all of the things that Trump says that he would be able to do if reelected.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If they give him immunity I'm fucking rioting

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

You and everybody else that didn't vote for that sweat stain of a human being.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

We'll miss you, Hombre.

[–] 2fat4that@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

No need to riot. General strike my man.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Brace yourself for legalization of dictatorship (offer valid only for R candidates).