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Come on'n get your jamaharon on! There are no real rules—just don't break the weather control network.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wil's got a point, guys.

Also, yes get a bigger fence, but also fuck the Prime Directive whenever you feel like it, apparently.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

To be fair they wanted to execute a child for tripping. Fuck the Prime Directive in that case and fuck that planet. There should very much be a clause for protecting your own citizens provided they're literal children.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Its definitely a case of "um, yeah, your application to ever join the Federation has been denied, pending you not having incredibly stupid laws".

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which is a real thing in canon. Bajor's application was put in jeopardy when they briefly reinstated a caste system, which violated Federation equality rules.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm surprised them being a theocracy didn't disqualify them.

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A theocracy with gods, who in fact exist. I guess that made the difference?

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Moved it from theocracy to fandom

[–] VindictiveJudge@startrek.website 12 points 11 months ago

They're actually a republic. The Vedek Assembly has a lot of influence, but they're fully separate from the Provisional Government. And they only have that much influence because the vast majority of the population follows the Bajoran faith. Think of the Assembly like the Vatican - powerful when everyone cares (Pope during the Middle Ages), but virtually powerless when nobody does (Pope now).

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

provided they’re literal children

Yeah, you could just remove that part. There's no sense on holding the non-intervention principle so high that you comply with every crazy request from the natives.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Well, no, it must be left in because if you stick with your part of "every crazy request" then it completely ignores the entire spirit and purpose of the Prime Directive. Starfleet isn't the be all and end all of morality. Their decisions affect them and the people within it but they're not "Team America: Space Police." They don't go around judging which laws are good and which aren't. ESPECIALLY when that perspective comes from them and them alone. Different cultures have different beliefs. Ignoring them and imposing your own on everyone is imperalistic as hell and directly against what Starfleet stands for.

Adding a clause to children works for me because the only purpose is to protect the children. The Prime Directive is still able to stand and work between cultures but this way Starfleet is able to say "Our cultures matter too and our culture says children whos brains aren't done developing shouldn't be executed for a mistake." Sure it's still fucked up that they'd do it to adults but they're adults. They made their decision and their decision led to them doing stupid shit on an alien planet, fucking around and finding out.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Not complying with requests is not the same as imposing your morality. Nopping out of the contact with some population because they believe your people must be killed won't destroy their culture.

But then, yeah, the show would have to contain hard decisions, and would be completely different from Star Trek (at least the newer ones).

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

They let Tasha Yar duel to the death because some dude had the hots for her.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They weren't a pre-warp culture, the Prime Directive doesn't apply.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Part of it states that while visiting other planets, following their rules since they’re host.

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[–] SpookyUnderwear@eviltoast.org 3 points 11 months ago

Hey! You don't fuck the prime directive. The prime directive fucks you.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's funny I like Will about as much as I dislike Wesley, he's seems like a great guy and often very funny

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

Yeah, as far as child stars go, he turned out more well adjusted than the vast majority it seems.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

lol remember when wil was bullied off the fedi?

they should start their own lemmy instance.

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He was what?! If that's true it's a shame. We all hate Wes but hating on Wil is not cool at all.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 42 points 11 months ago (13 children)
[–] Zink@programming.dev 17 points 11 months ago

That stinks. I could see him being treated very nicely around here, but maybe the same jackasses would just follow him.

[–] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Oh fuck! That is terrible. We should try to make up for it imo. Official invite to startrek.website when?

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[–] teft@startrek.website 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I can definitely see him commenting like that. He used to regularly pop up on reddit as /u/wil.

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (18 children)

Oh 100%. He's a delightful man. Still so frustrated at the people who made him quit Twitter ages ago with the constant "Shut up Wesley" shit.

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[–] ethd@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago

This is a real post, for what it's worth, and that's Wil Wheaton's real Tumblr.

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 10 points 11 months ago

Took me a while to remember that one weird episode.

[–] xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would blow my mind to have Wil on Lemmy. I bet he'd be fun and all around cool.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The issue is he'd probably not say he's Wil Wheaton. I could be Wil Wheaton for all you know. Maybe we're all Wil Wheaton.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

Sounds like something Wil would say.

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[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where can I see these shapely twinks in linen thongs?

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Star Trek: The Next Generation, season one, episode eight, "Justice".

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