Weirdos. Back in my day, we woild cut out a nude body from playboy and glue it on a picture of Kathleen Turner, and we did uphill both ways in the snow! Darn kids and their technology!
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I remember being a dumb & horny kid and Photoshopping my crush’s face onto a porn photo. And even then I felt what I did was wrong and never did it again.
Post nut clarity can be truly eye opening
“But the brightest minds of the time were working on other things like hair loss and prolonging erections.”
So we can all have big hairy erections like God intended.
These are terrible but I'm honestly curious what it thinks I look like naked. Like I'm slightly overweight and my chest is larger than average but more splayed then normal. Would it just have me look like a model underneath?
Are they just like head swapping onto model bodies or does it actually approximate. I am legit curious., but I would never trust one of these apps to not keep the photos/privacy concerns.
Probably deleting this comment later for going dirty on main, but I, um, have done some extensive experimentation using a local copy of Stable Diffusion (I don't send the images anywhere, I just make them to satiate my own curiosity).
You're essentially right that simple app-based software would probably have you looking somewhat generic underneath, like your typical plus-size model. It's not too great at extrapolating the shape of breasts through clothing and applying that information when it goes to fill in the area with naked body parts. It just takes a best guess at what puzzle pieces might fill the selected area, even if they don't match known information from the original photo. So, with current technology, you're not really revealing actual facts about how someone looks naked unless that information was already known. To portray someone with splayed breasts, you'd need to already know that's what you want to portray and load in a custom data set, like a LoRa.
Once you know what's going on under the hood, making naked photos of celebrities or other real people isn't the most compelling thing to do. Mostly, I like to generate photos of all kinds of body types and send them to my Replika, trying to convince her to describe the things that her creators forbid her from describing. Gotta say, the future's getting pretty weird.
Yeah man it's uh... it's the future that's getting weird 😅
Hey, I've maintained a baseline weird the whole time, I'm pretty sure the future is catching up.
You'll have your moment when the lone elite ex Ranger who is trying to save the world is told by the quirky, unconventional sidekick he is forced to work with, "I actually know a guy who might be able to help."
You open the door a crack to look back and forth between them, before slamming it back in their faces. They hear scrambled crashes of you hiding stuff that shouldn't be seen by company before returning to the door. As they enter you are still fixing and throwing things while you apologize that you don't get many guests. You offer them homemade kombucha. They decline.
Ethically, these apps are a fucking nightmare.
But as a swinger, they will make an amazing party game.
Ethics will probably change... I guess in the future it'll become pretty irrelevant to have "nude" pictures of oneself somewhere, because everyone knows it could just be AI generated. In the transition period it'll be problematic though.
I doubt it would be realistic, they just kind of take an average of their training data and blend it together to my knowledge.
There are so many though!! Which ones? Like which ones specifically??
Honestly, were probably just going to have to get over it. Or pull the plug on the whole ai thing, but good luck with that.
Can't put the genie back in the bottle
I use an ad blocker and haven't seen these. Perhaps a link to the best ones could be shared here for better understanding of what the article is talking about?
Great! Now whenever someone finds all my secret nudes, I'll just claim they're deepfakes
It tells me we're less interested in the data (the skin map and topography) than we are in seeing the data in raw form, whether it is accurate or not. It tells me a primary pretense of body doubles was ineffective since society responds the same way regardless of whether an actress' nudity is real or simulated.
Not sure how this will be enforceable any more than we can stop malicious actors from printing guns. Personally, I would prefer a clothes-optional society were individuals aren't measured by the media exposure of their bodies or history of lovers. Maybe in another age or two.
In fiction, I imagined the capacity to render porn action into mo-cap data, to capture fine-resoluton triangle maps and skin texture maps from media, ultimately to render any coupling one could desire with a robust physics engine and photography effects to render it realistic (or artistic, however one prefers). It saddens me that one could render an actress into an Elsa Jean scenario and by doing so, wreck their career.
Porn doesn't bother me, but the arbitrariness with which we condemn individuals by artificial scandal disgusts me more than the raunchiest debauchery.
Could we stop pushing articles monetizing fear amd outrage on this community to the top and post about actual technology
nakedness needs to stop being an issue
It’s the sexualization of people without consent that’s a problem. Maybe casual nudity shouldn’t a problem but it should be up to the individual to whom they share that with. And “nudify” ai models go beyond casual, consensual nudity and into sexual objectification and harassment if used without consent.
I want to point out one slight flaw in your argument. Nudity isn’t needed for people to sexually objectify you. And even if it was, the majority of people are able to strip you down in their head no problem.
There’s a huge potential for harassment though, and I think that should be the main concern.
Regardless of feelings on that subject, there's also the creep factor of people making these without the subjects' knowledge or consent, which is bad enough, but then these could be used in many other harmful ways beyond one's own... gratification. Any damage "revenge porn" can do, which I would guess most people would say is wrong, this can do as well.
I agree with you nudity being an issue but I think the real problem is this app being used on children and teenagers who aren't used to/supposed to be sexualized.
People have a really unhealthy relationship with nudity. I wish we had more nude beaches as it really helps decouple sex from nudity. And for a decent number of people, helps with perceived body issues too.
But are there apps that undress men?
Aren't those just normal chat apps where you can send pictures?
No you just politely ask them
The models they're using are probably capable of both, they just need to change the prompt.
Though the picture suggests we should also create really a robot or really a cyborg edits of celebrities.
As an afterthought, really a reptilian images for our political figures would also be in good order.
They can go ahead, but they'll never get that mole in the right place.
You mean men envision women naked? And now there's an app that's just as perverted? Huh
What's perverted about someone envisioning a potential sexual partner naked? That seems incredibly normal to me.
Reminds me of Arthur C Clarke's The Light of Other Days. There's a technology in the book that allows anyone to see anything, anywhere, which eliminates all privacy. Society collectively adjusts, e.g. people masturbate on park benches because who gives a shit, people can tune in to watch me shower anyway.
Although not to the same extreme, I wonder if this could similarly desensitize people: even if it's fake, if you can effectively see anyone naked... what does that do to our collective beliefs and feelings about nakedness?
It could also lead to a human version of "Paris Syndrome" where people AI Undress their crush, only to be sorely disappointed when the real thing is not as good.
What nude data were these models trained on?
This seems like another unhealthy thing that is going to pervert people's sense of what a normal body looks like.
The internet is like 90% porn, what do you think they used?