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[–] KRAW@linux.community 85 points 11 months ago (25 children)

Can you give an example? I know that some people have a hard time with the strong smells, but I honestly have never heard it made fun of in any demeaning way. Maybe at worst a character has a bad time on a toilet due to the Indian food being so spicy, but I can't think of how it would be made fun of. Seems well loved here in the States in my experience.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've not heard these jokes. I love my Indian food. Taco Bell jokes are 10x more prevalent. What are your sources for Indian food hate?

[–] ElJefe@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago (4 children)

As a Mexican, I don’t take Taco Bell jokes to be offensive. Or even Mexican food jokes to be offensive, for that matter. I mean, i know my people’s food will sometimes make me shit my pants, but fuck it’s delicious. But back to the point, Taco Bell is far from being ethnically offensive, because it is far from being representative of Mexican food.

[–] xedrak@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Taco Bell is far from being ethnically offensive, because it is far from being representative of Mexican food.

You’re right, Taco Bell is way better.

(just kidding pls no hate)

[–] ElJefe@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Everyone knows it's a shitty photocopy of Tex-Mex. We eat it anyway because it's greasy, cheap food with a strong but not offensive flavour of some kind.

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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah, the joke isn't just that Mexican food gave them the shits, it's that we still eat knowing that is the case because its so fucking good.

[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 5 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Do Mexicans even know how to be offended, or is it a foreign concept completely? You guys like Speedy Gonzales.

[–] ElJefe@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think a very interesting part of Mexican culture is to learn how to not take ourselves too seriously. I had to learn to deal with being made fun of for the stupidest things. It was always β€œel que se enoja, pierde (he who gets mad, loses).” So you had to learn how to take it and dish it back. And the idea was to keep it as a battle of wits, without becoming irate and physical. I have to admit, I lost more times than I’d like to own up…

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[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm American and I can't think of a comedy show that makes fun of Indian food. Can you name one of them so I can check it out?

I'd say most medium to large sized cities in the US have Indian restaurants, so it's not so unusual.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Big bang theory.

Rag "you're talking about a subcontinent that hasn't had a solid bowl movement..."

[–] prowess2956@kbin.social 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Drusas@kbin.social 39 points 11 months ago

Indian food is very popular in the US and I have never heard anybody rag on it ever. Don't know what kind of media you must be consuming.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Do they? I rarely see jokes about it and if I do see jokes they are spicy diarrhea related which I will admit is odd because Americanized Indian food is not spicy at all.

I don't know if I've ever seen jokes about Indian food, but if you're right I would guess it's for the same reasons Taco Bell gets the same jokes - it's still spicy by "mayonnaise is spicy" standards and (at least my orders) are usually bean heavy and that's a lot of fiber by average American diet standards. The joke is really on us, not the Indian food.

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[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 32 points 11 months ago

Casual xenophobia/racism. Much like the whole MSG thing here.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago
[–] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 25 points 11 months ago

It gets the same jokes as Mexican food usually here. Really, some people's guts just can't handle any amount of spice, and poo jokes are always a hit.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (8 children)

It's not just Indian food. A number of mostly older Americans like to make fun of any spicy "foreign" foods that are more adventurous than the local Taco Bell. They do it because their tummies can't handle anything that's not bland to the point of being tastless. These are the same people who think salt and pepper are exotic spices. For the record I am American and I love Indian food

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Do they? I don't watch much TV and nobody I know makes fun of Indian food, it's awesome.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I haven't seen too many shows make fun of Indian food, but to be fair my taste in TV often isn't very mainstream and doesn't tend to include a lot of comedy, so I may not be the right one to answer this.

When I do see it, usually I see them joking about the smell, and I can kind of get that. Don't get me wrong, I love Indian food, I love the flavors and smells and all that goes with it. But all of those wonderful spices can create a powerful smell, it can kind of cling to clothing and such, if you live in an apartment it's very likely you'll smell when your neighbors are cooking Indian food, etc. and I can get how that can be annoying or unpleasant for some people. Honestly, if I was constantly smelling Indian food wafting into my apartment through a shared vent or something, I'd probably get sick of it too.

There's also the fact that a lot of Americans just have a very bland palate, and all of the spices, not to mention heat, can be very overwhelming to people who aren't accustomed to it. Personally when I see these jokes, and again, my experience may not be typical, it tends to be more at the expense of the American having boring taste in food than actually making fun of Indian food itself.

And since I mentioned that people may not be accustomed to it, let's not forget that America is a big, diverse country, and not every part of America has a big Indian population, which means a lot of the country doesn't necessarily have a lot of exposure to indian food. I do happen to live in an area with a lot of Indian families, but you only need to drive maybe about an hour away for your options to dry up pretty quickly. I have friends who genuinely do not have any Indian restaurants anywhere near them, and their grocery options are sometimes kind of limited which may get in the way of making it at home if they wanted to (and not everyone is a great cook or willing to risk messing up dinner with unfamiliar recipes) And that much spice and flavor when you're not used to it can be a bit off-putting. I'm a fairly adventurous eater, but I didn't grow up eating Indian food (my mom is one of those kinds of people who thinks a McChicken is too spicy,) and I know the first time I had Indian I wasn't quite sure what to make of it, I didn't dislike it, but I had to have it a couple times before I really came to appreciate it.

Personally, in my circles the people who don't like Indian tend to be the odd ones out that get made fun of, but again I'm not necessarily representative of America in general, that's just been my own experience. I even know some people who love indian food but can't/shouldn't eat it due to all of the spices and such not sitting well with their stomachs (and there may be a discussion to be had about many American's bland, super-processed diets having negative effects on their gut microbiomes possibly making it harder for their systems to handle certain cuisines, but that's well outside of my depth to really go into, I'm a foodie, not a nutritionist, so take my speculation with a heaping helping of some coarse finishing salt)

[–] trk@aussie.zone 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

let's not forget that America is a big, diverse country

We just did a 5 week trip in the US which was LA, drive to Vegas, fly to NYC, then drive 5000k to the middle of Texas, and man... I keep hearing about all this diversity but that joint is the same all over. Having some mountains in the background instead of a desert, and having a majority RAM 2500s instead of majority Teslas is not the "diversity" I'd been led to believe existed. It's all just chain stores, tipping, and bad coffee anywhere you go.

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[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Yeah I'd like to see some examples. Everyone I know loves Indian food. Hope you're not some kind of troll. Give me that curry, man!

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[–] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 13 points 11 months ago

odd, never heard of comedy making fun of foreign food.

I personally enjoy a fair bit of Indian food, it's quite varied.

[–] SHamblingSHapes@lemmy.one 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What is the punchline you see in American media about Indian food?

The stereotype of Indian cuisine is that it sometimes has really strong flavor, sometimes a strong smell to match. Those are not bad things.

I don't have any overall negative associations with Indian food. There are certainly dishes that don't appeal to me, but if anyone wanted to go to an Indian restaurant for dinner, I would say "yes, please".

Edit: I see some comments about "spicy diarrhea" jokes. I see those as a function of people not acclimated to spicy food, not that the spicy food itself is bad. I'm impressed by people who can eat full spicy level Indian food. I would be on a toilet for a day if I ate fully spicy level; that's my problem, not the fault of Indian cuisine overall.

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[–] gatelike@feddit.de 11 points 11 months ago

bland shows catering to bland tastes, maybe?

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Maybe it’s that I don’t watch much comedy, but I’ve literally never seen anything dump on Indian. There is nothing more delicious than Indian. Nothing. Not even Mexican food. I do not say that lightly.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago

What? I've never seen anyone rag on Indian food.

At worst, the way they eat it, but never the food.

[–] trabpukcip@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In general, similar to Thai restaurants, Indian restaurants in the US all have the same ~10 things on the menu, so our exposure to the diversity of Indian cuisine is actually really limited to mostly northern Indian dishes.

In the US, a lot of Indian food is served buffet-style, so you walk around and slop different colored mushes on your plate, which can be kinda unappetizing. And some of them aren't that good.

It's very vegetable based, and Americans are meat babies.

Spices, Americans don't like em. Strong smells can be off-putting to the sensitive cracker palette

Racism/orientalism

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[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Dunno what you’re talking about there champ

[–] ItsMeForRealNow@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Hollywood and reality are very different. Hollywood makers can be slightly out of touch. In reality people here love Indian food. Many people I know tolerate decent spice levels too.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (6 children)

It's so common people don't even see it. But it's the same thing as Mexican food. The perception is it is spicy and will give you diarrhea.

I firmly believe this is because American people in general don't understand what spices are. Spiced does not mean spicy hot. Spiced is flavourful and they just can't have that. I have dined with Americans that truly believe black pepper is too spicy. We had a Starbucks chai which is absolutely terrible, and they've said "it's too spicy"... What? Their brains equate flavour to spicy heat to bad.

It's stupidly infuriating.

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[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I honestly can't think of seeing anything like that.

If anything we might make fun of some of us who can't take anything spicier than mashed potatoes.

Dang. Now I'm hungry for some saag paneer.

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