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Here's the answer: No.
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Wasn't there evidence Israeli leadership was alerted over the attack and course to ignore it?
The Hamas leaders are all very wealthy and and on't live in Gaza. Same as the people running the Taliban - they don't live in Afghanistan. It's believable that they made money from these nasty acts.
The Hamas leaders are all very wealthy and and on’t live in Gaza.
Sounds like wiping out Hamas can't be accomplished by attacking Gaza, then.
Never underestimate Mosad.
The goal is not wiping out Hamas entirely but removing their strategic capabilities within Gaza.
The IS being active in the middle east isn't a huge problem for the US but if they had a base in Cuba you'd for sure have the military there removing it asap...
The problem is these guys live in Quatar and right now they're needed for negotiating puposes.
Netanyahu has made it clear that he intends to pursue attacks against Gaza until Hamas is wiped out.
If Hamas cannot be wiped out by attacking Gaza, the condition for ending the war cannot be met, even if Gaza is reduced to a plain of uninhabited slag.
The purpose of the war in gaza is to get revenge. Its just 2 nations trying to genocide eachother hamas doesnt care about war crimes or the world order israil has to at least pretend to play ball to keep the americans on side.
There are always alternatives. They could call Hamas combat ineffective and declare truece. Tough to do, though as Hamas is still firing rockets on Isreal.
They could call Hamas combat ineffective and declare truece.
Wiping out Hamas is the current stated goal, not rendering them ineffective. You don't set a condition you can't meet if your intention is to stop at some point.
It all depends on your definition of wiping out. I'm sure your not going to get every single one. BTW, Saudi, Jordan and Egypt really want them to wipe them all out. They consider Hamas another Muslim Brotherhood, and don't give a shit about the Gazians.
It all depends on your definition of wiping out.
Do you suppose Netanyahu will be content with leaving Hamas' leadership intact?
I think Netanyahu will be content to stay out of jail. He might not get to make that call.
Israel has got, between regular and reserve, about half million troops in the field. It's GDP isn't good enough to carry the cost for that for too long. It may be less of a decision than you might think.
It’s GDP isn’t good enough to carry the cost for that for too long.
Ours may be.
It would be, but that will never happen
It would be, but that will never happen
You sure? Let's examine domestic politics regarding the war:
Republicans are in favor of the "plain of uninhabited slag" outcome for its own sake.
Progressives want the war to end, preferably quickly.
And centrist Democrats have a few reasons to side with Republicans on this: It doesn't involve altering the status quo. They get to be seen as bipartisan by doing something Republicans want. And they have a GWB-style "terrorist sympathizer" cudgel to deploy against progressives.
Way I see it, Netanyahu will have us doing whatever he wants until the cudgel stops working at the earliest, since he can count on having both Republicans and centrist Dems in his corner.
Have you fantasized all your life or is it more recent?
I was wondering when you'd start with the condescending dismissals.
Turns out, all I had to do was describe your behavior. Congratulations on your acquisition of a cudgel.
You described a fantasy hoping I'd bite and waste time. I didn't. I'd say nice try, but it really wasnt.
If you think I'm wasting your time, you can simply stop replying to me.