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[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Sony should invent a way for people to buy a movie, own it, and be able to store it on a shelf or something. Maybe we can even lend them to friends or start a library.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean "lend"? They won't buy it themselves?? Corporate blasphemy!

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

And to think the joke back in 2013 was that it was Microsoft who so fervently defended the right to "not allow people to sell, lend or share their games", while Sony was just "With our console, you can"

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Something round and flat and blue. If only that technology existed 😩

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

You could even like, use a really high frequency of laser rays so that you can pack as much data on that blue disc! Maybe we could trademark this. I'll call it High Definition DVD.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't it SME that constantly came up with the dumbest fucking DRM garbage on their CDs that made you unable to play them in regular media players?

[–] SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Thank fuck for Kazaa at the time.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, but why would I want to store digital media on a shelf? IMHO not having physical media cluttering up my physical space is a big advantage of online purchases. That, and being able to acquire new stuff at any time, day or night, without even leaving home.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Well, I'd also take the option of just downloading it and keeping it on my hard drive.

[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So they're promoting piracy, because that's how you promote piracy.

[–] Freuks@lemmy.ml 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just discovered people pay series and shows on Playstation

[–] urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The people who do this aren’t technologically “literate”. I don’t like using that phrase because it sounds judgy. I work with people like this. Their main computing device is their smartphone.

If this sounds foolish, it’s not really. These people struggle to make rent due to low wages in the area, so a laptop is “nice to have” but not a necessity. They’re also too time-poor to grab a used laptop or something and figure out the best way to hook it up to their tv and get the content they want. Why bother, their play station/xbox/smart tv already has Netflix or whatever.

I tried showing someone NewPipe for their android phone and I thought they were going to call me a witch or something. They didn’t trust me, and installing fdroid seemed sketchy to them so they didn’t do it. I can’t say I blamed them honestly.

Sony is awful, people should be able to use things they pay for.

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I wouldn't say tech illiterate so much as ignorant or they truly don't care.

Unlimited plans and monthly financing means even a homeless person can get a really decent phone with great service. I'm surprised when I see anyone with more than a phone or tablet.

ISPs won't even upgrade services is low income areas because no one buys internet service. They just don't need it.

[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I've worked in IT for over 26 years, have my own Plex server in my home (that's also connected directly to the TV in my living room via HDMI), and own and use several laptops.

Still, I've "bought" a number of movies from Microsoft largely thanks to the fact that I can sync them to multiple services using Movies Anywhere and because they were basically "free" to me because Microsoft kept giving me $5 gift cards randomly for a while there and I couldn't think of anything better to use them on at the time.

I'd still be upset if they suddenly decided to yank those titles out of my library even though I don't really rely on them as my only option to watch those films.

[–] Betazed@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 10 months ago

This is the unfortunate reality of current intellectual property. Anytime you don't have a copy of something directly in your possession, either as a physical object like a BluRay, or digital file(s) on digital storage only you control, you don't really own it. You're just borrowing it, or more strictly speaking, you're purchasing the right to access it until the agreement between the creator company (i.e., WarnerDiscovery) and the hosting company (i.e., Sony) expires.

When issues like this come up, there are right ways and wrong ways to handle it. This is an example of a wrong way. Google's handling of the Stadia shutdown was an example of the right way. Any game you purchased on Stadia was refunded to the original payment method, not store credit, at the price you paid giving you the ability to reacquire the game on another platform and/or in another medium. They even refunded in-game purchases of things like premium currency (e.g. silver in Destiny 2, or crowns in Elder Scrolls Online) which was a great bonus because you got that whether you had spent the in-game currency or not so it was essentially free.

Personally, I'd like protection like what Google offered to be legally mandated for the purchase of streaming content. Sony has little choice in the matter if WarnerDiscovery won't renew the streaming license. Legally, they must revoke access to the content, but currently they can choose to not compensate users who lose access to the content through these legal machinations and that's what I have a problem with.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This is as good of a time as any to tell you guys that future Oscar winning movie, Barbie, is now also available on Blu-Ray and DVD, physical copies that you'll always have if you want to watch it again.

[–] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Blu-Ray discs can carry mandatory software updates that change the functionality of playback devices, add “protections” against “piracy”, and could potentially revoke licenses of content on other discs.

Media companies are prepared to screw you over regardless of wether or not you but content from them. I do believe in paying for content, but I don’t trust any modern distribution to last, so I have a couple backups of all the media I’ve ever purchased. And for formats that make it difficult to back up, I sail the seven seas.

[–] OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Blue ray only lasts 25-40 years on average. Just pirate it xD.

[–] skeeter_dave@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hard disk drives will last even less. The lubrication will dry up and the disk will seize way before the 25 year mark.

Bluray is a fine back up media, I use them for stuff on my NAS that I cannot lose like precious pictures of family and friends. Not all of us live on am abandoned salt mine with perfect temperature and humidity for long term tape storage.

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hard disk drives will last even less. The lubrication will dry up and the disk will seize way before the 25 year mark.

That's what you have redundancies and backups

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How long are SD and microSD cards expected to last? Asking because I have a dozen of them lying around

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't have an exact time span but personally I wouldn't trust them as anything more than temporary device storage, they randomly die often

Cheap, low quality flash, poorer QC, etc

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Or... you could buy multiple copies of the Blu-Ray so that if one copy fails, you'll always have backup Barbies at the ready.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 10 months ago

No they'll all fail at the same time 25 to 30 years in the future.

You need to buy multiple copies and place each one in a deep freeze, then thaw each one out as the previous one fails. It's the only logical response.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The physical discs degrade overtime. Getting 10 copies now won't stop that, even if one might outlast another for a bit.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

and the quality of a 4k DVD is really high, much higher than the downloaded copy likely is!

[–] Hiko0@feddit.de 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] smotherlove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Aaahh Aaahh, the blood runs cold!

We take our loot but don't get old!

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

This is actual theft. If they want to go on about piracy being theft, justify this first.

[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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