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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by psy32nd@lemmy.world to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 
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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 111 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Strawman.

What people are justifiably concerned about is pollution causing death and disease. Fuck off with this hYpOcRiSy bullshit

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fuck off with this hYpOcRiSy bullshit

I don't even find it hypocritical... I'd be sad too if I couldn't eat the fish... It could have at least died to fit in my belly rather than just dying for no good reason.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Or some other creature that eats fish. Every death in nature should benefit someone, ideally. 😕 Us or other animals.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Guarantee the person who made this is a vegan.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You'd hope so, the more the better for the planet

[–] victorz@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You'd think so, until you hear the rebuttals to this that never ever get brought up by the media.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What are some of these "rebuttals"?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For example that producing and shipping the pure amount of mass corresponding to the same amount of nutrition in vegan foods vs dairy/meat products is not sustainable, because plant based foods contain so much less nutrition than animal products. You have to level and destroy forest habitats to grow all these things for 10,000,000,000 people... That's an infant amount of plants.

And a lot of foods that claim to be "good sources of protein" don't really... contain much else, like meat does. Some are even harmful in large quantities like too much soy in your diet, especially to children.

I dunno, these are things I've been told. Just the messenger so take with a grain of salt. But I thought they were interesting points that shouldn't be ignored and should be disproven before dismissed. I just have too much going on in my life to worry about researching it right now. 😓 But one day maybe!

What do you think? I think this topic is definitely more complicated than "let's fix/save the world by going vegan".

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 0 points 11 months ago

Personally... I'd be much more worried about native animal populations if meat is banned. Eg... take away steak at the supermarket, and you might find that people will just start hunting a lot more.

[–] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

who do you think pollutes the waters? you get 3 tries but no phone-a-friend

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Mostly China and India.

[–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We're not just eating tons per day, we're eating about 430-ish metric kilotons per day.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

How many per day are replenished then?

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, everything just sounds bigger on the metric system though

[–] Evilsmiley@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

A metric ton is 40lbs more than a 'long ton'

[–] bellly@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I <3 the micro plastics in my body ✨️✨️

[–] gehrluke@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

It's like additional electrolytes!

[–] CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

People here are talking about fishes as our food source but what about fishes as a food source for other aquatic life? Or other animals that feed on those marine life? The effects can be far reaching. So the implication of a fish dying from plastic is a bit more complicated than what OP's making it out to be

[–] Moshpirit@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

We can avoid eating animals though

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

that doesn't stop either of the problems.

[–] curious_betsy@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

easily solves the first one and helps with the second one as discarded fishing nets are a large source of plastic in the ocean

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

lots of people have gone vegan. the problems are still getting worse.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Don't know if trolling or just stupid

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Now I know what you do: you are shitposting inside a shitposting community! If that's what lemmy has become, I don't want to be part of it anymore. Sad.

[–] curious_betsy@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cant get down bc some anti vegan bad faith internet comments. You always get these guys on any platform

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not anti vegan

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think what you're missing is that they want everyone to go vegan. I think that's the point.

I'm not on any side here, just pointing out where I think you walked off the trail (in the very beginning).

[–] curious_betsy@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

this commie guy is an obvious troll, but props for trying to explain

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago

calling me names doesn't make what I said untrue

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

not everyone is in this Lemmy thread.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That's okay, it was only intended for you...

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any fish that dies from plastic is dying from a method that isn't me eating it. Also, there's lots of fish I don't eat that I'm not cool with dying to plastic. I really like the ocean plants that make all the oxygen I breath too.

[–] amzd@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Dredging for your fish kills most ocean plants.

[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Comments have been locked due to toxicity. Sorry op.

[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

I love sushi. I'm going to have all you can eat next week and I'm gonna eat so much I shit myself. It's gonna be fucking awesome.

[–] Dio@lemy.lol -2 points 11 months ago