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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 125 points 11 months ago

Tell your revenue stream to go fuck themselves. It's a bold move Elon. Let's see if it pays off.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 114 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Musk responded that the advertising boycott is likely to kill the company. "What this advertising boycott is going to do is it's going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail,"

When Sorkin pointed out that advertisers see things differently, Musk replied, "oh yeah? Tell it to Earth."

Sorkin continued: "They're going to say, Elon, that you killed the company because you said these things and they were inappropriate things and they didn't feel comfortable on the platform. That's what they're going to say."

"And let's see how Earth responds to that," Musk replied.

I mean… I think that pretty much removes any last doubt anyone might have had that Elon Musk had any grasp on the reality that he himself exists in.

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 95 points 11 months ago (20 children)

Dude you missed quoting the best bit!

"If somebody is going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money? Go fuck yourself," Musk said.

Sorkin replied, "but," and trailed off. Musk wasn't done. "Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey, Bob!" Musk said. Musk was apparently addressing Disney CEO Bob Iger, who previously said at the conference that advertising on X "was not necessarily a positive" association and so Disney "decided we would pull our advertising."

The Muskrat told Disney CEO to go fuck himself.

On video.

With a hard F. No dissembling.

The Tesla board should remove him as CEO as he is clearly unstable.

It’s mean to laugh at people self destructing.

But anyway … fucking lol.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think he's going to OD someday

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[–] MuuuaadDib@lemm.ee 95 points 11 months ago (11 children)

The best part was the dead silence when he was waiting for laughter or something, the silence was murder on his soul. Not unlike when Dave Chapelle brought him out on stage for who knows why and he was booed like .....how fucking out of touch are you Dave, and why would you bring that turd out?

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dave got rich and kinda lost his grip with reality

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

There is probably some secret rich person drug that they're all doing that makes them this way. We'll find out about it in a few decades.

Like lead in gasoline

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 33 points 11 months ago (7 children)

It's a lack of negative reinforcement. Normal people face negative reinforcement every single day: if you screw up you lose something. Relationships, jobs, money, etc.

After a certain amount of wealth the negative reinforcement starts to disappear. You don't need to give a shit about what "little people" think when you can always find an audience that agrees with you. When people will put up with your shit because you're the one footing the bill. When expensive mistakes are pennies to you.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Or when he died on his ass on SNL. Or when he appeared in a Rick & Morty episode and managed to kill it by his mere presence. He thinks he is edgy, funny and cool but he isn't. Instead he is awkward, unfunny, weird and deeply unpopular for being a dick.

[–] Surreal@programming.dev 26 points 11 months ago

It's all because he's a dick. No amount of quirky, charisma can cover it up if deep down, he's an evil asshole.

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[–] guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 92 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Bigbrain businessman buys stable business that wasn't profitable, promises to make it profitable. Proceeds to destroy company's main/only[?] line of business by using it to air fascism and bigotry, complains about being "blackmailed" by business partners as they leave after he personally made said line of business literally untenable.

Is he trying to be funny right now or something?

[–] twisted28@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (6 children)

IMHO Musk and the 1% saw the collective power Twitter gave to the working class. It was able to usher in the #Metoo movement and finally bring justice to powerful people. The rich aren’t gonna leave a tool like that intact

[–] guitarsarereal@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

You do realize that's a marketing line about Twitter, right? It's a private, for-profit corporation whose entire purpose is to inspire users to give away data about themselves for free. They don't care what you think, they care how to manipulate you into buying things from them. Go ahead, buy your justice deodorant to wear to the protest. They're very scared. After all, the government didn't learn anything about counterinsurgency since the 1960's, so it's not like they know how to use all this data and surveillance to keep an eye on us.

Trump was one of Twitter's biggest users and they didn't boot him until he tried to start a fascist insurrection and, again, made it impossible not to boot him. They're an advertising platform first and foremost, they pandered to the far right as much as to anyone else, and the right got plenty of use out of that platform even before Musk took it over.

The only way you could think otherwise was not actually having used Twitter since like, 2011.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 89 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (13 children)

I dunno what the hell he's on, but he needs to take more of it. Like, LD 50 or less level dose.

I have never in my life seen an interviewer try to get someone to save face like this. Elon has zero self awareness, and he's basically behaving like a petulant child. Who the fuck sees this man as a genius?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Well he’s rich, so he’s a genius. And we should worship him.

/s

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[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 75 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (15 children)

"What this advertising boycott is going to do is it's going to kill the company, and the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company and we will document it in great detail," Musk said.

No need, you making twitter toxic to advertisers and the resulting fallout is already very well documented.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"And let's see how Earth responds to that," Musk replied.

I'm getting strong Kanye vibes from Elon these days.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Kanye's straight up bipolar, maybe even schizoaffective. Musk still just looks like a narcissistic asshole, and the grandiosity about "Earth" caring about Twitter is par for the course

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's so much like Trump. Except maybe even more childish somehow.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because Trump, as weirdly as he may go about it, has made his way through life on his (inherited fortune from his from his crook of a father and) force of personality.

He gets people to do what he wants them to do by projecting an image, a brand, through the way he acts and speaks. Look at The Apprentice. He's playing this role that says (without saying out loud), "Look at me. I'm a straight shooting, no nonsense business leader and my personality and business sense have brought me success, money, fame, luxury, and power. You want that too? You want to be like me? Then do what I say."

Not saying it's authentic or that it should work, but Trump's entire existence is based on this tactic. He's constantly projecting an image, and it's that projection of that image that gets him his way. His force of personality is just as, if not more central to his power as his money (make no mistake, the money is necessary too).

This, in contrast with Musk, who's typically cultivated his following based on ideas and drive. He gets people to go along with him because he's seen as a modern day Edison (and to be fair, the comparison, in some ways, is apt... especially the less flattering ones), a groundbreaker, rules breaker...a visionary.

Simply put, among the people who follow these guys, people follow Musk for what he says (in terms of his big ideas), people follow Trump for the way he acts (in terms of the image he projects). It takes a strong set of blinders to ignore Musk's sharing of his worse ideas and Trump's less than impressive antics, but their respective cults have had plenty of practice in those mental gymnastics.

Thus you're left with the mind boggling (to the rest of us) situation where Musk's followers don't care how he acts, because they are laser focused on his ideas, while Trump supporters couldn't care less about the crazy or incoherent stuff he says, so long as he keeps projecting that macho, confident persona.

So that's how Musk gets away with being "Trump, but more childish": he's not depending on the personality like Trump, so he can act that way without turning his supporters off, because they don't care about that in the first place.

Musk's entire angle is "it's okay to be a humongous asshole if you achieve your goals.

Trump's is, "It's okay to be a humongous asshole, as long as you can sell it as arrogance bred from success."

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is spot on accurate, Donald Trump is a Salesman who sells the character of trump. He knows that No Nonsense billionaires with a genius intellect who are well first in the art of the deal do not exist, but he will sell you the fantasy.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah. Musk has gone funny in the head. Does he not know the concept of brand-safe content?

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 29 points 11 months ago

His perspective is like a kid kicking a sandcastle that he gave another kid $10 to buy because he thought it was neat.

What does he care if Twitter doesn't make money? He is personally set for life, and the world would basically have to end for that to change.

Why does someone worth 11 digits of greenback currency have to understand what brand safe content is? He could shoot a man in the middle of the street and toss his equivalent of pennies to the witnesses and never see consequences.

All of this criticism he's seeing on public airwaves, and his reaction, is revealing him for what he actually is: The single most richly spoiled baby in all of human history.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (5 children)

My guess is he probably knows more about it, than anyone else alive on earth today. /s
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/elon-musks-confusing-twitter-grab
I hope his arrogance will be his downfall, and not just from being #1 richest person in the world, but to actual bankruptcy.
I don't usually enjoy Schadenfreude, but Elon Musk has become such a cancer on humanity. I'll make an exception.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

People actually wrote books about how much of a genius this guy is

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They were the real geniuses.

"Elon Musk is big smart the book - $30!"

"Wowowowowow hands over $30 dollars" x 1,000,000+ sales

30 million dollars.

And all it cost was some paper, ink and your integrity as an author.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

I say "Go f..k yourself if you are still advertizing with this guy."

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

Nepo baby held accountable for his actions, thinks it's unfair he's responsible for them.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 34 points 11 months ago

Aww, he's pouting.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This barrier of capitalism loving fascists finding that capitalism works best with maximum participation therefore maximum diversity is infinitely entertaining to me.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, if the idiots could learn from history they would have found this out from the end of segregation, but they're "conservatives," so

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He's from South Africa. Racism is a socially accepted part of his childhood culture in a way that is unlike most other modern countries.

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[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Musk says X advertiser backlash is "going to kill the company."

For once I hope you're not wrong, Musk!

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 27 points 11 months ago (18 children)

And people aren't using Mastodon because?

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[–] erranto@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He is waiting for trump to save Xitter, but trump is taking his time

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[–] likelyaduck@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (26 children)

Wait till SpaceX IPO tanks next month. "Don't buy the stock. Go f*** yourself".

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

SpaceX isn't having an IPO. They are selling shares, which they have done many times in the past. That's different from listing your shares on a public stock exchange.

To clarify after further research what they are doing is called a "Tender Offer"

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[–] rab@lemmy.ca 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Is Musk on drugs or something? Genuinely seems to be losing his mind

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[–] 8000mark@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 11 months ago

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions!

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He’s probably not all that worried about Xwitter. He’s got billions to spare. Be like wrecking your Ferrari, blaming the wet road when you were just going too fast, and still having 4 more in the garage.

He’s just worried about saving face and how the boards of his companies are going to view his behavior.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He doesn't care about Twitter cause he never wanted to buy it. Claiming he was going to was just a justification so he could sell Tesla stock without shareholders questioning it.

The dude's got a habit of using social media to influence the stock value of his own companies so he can buy low and sell high. The Twitter acquisition was a complete farce to cover up his market manipulation tactics.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Exactly.

He thought Twitter was owned by leftwing "libtards" that would never in a million years sell to him. It was just puffing smoke trying to manipulate stocks and prove a point about the "evil liberalism" of twitter.

But that wasnt true.

Twitter was run by business people, as a business, and when his insane offer came in to buy it, they leapt at the chance.

and when they did that, he got scared and tried to back out.. until he was legally forced to make good on his offer.

and unlike spacex, where they created an insulating crumplezone of people around Musk for the express purpose of ignoring 99% of his requests and demands, Twitter is run by him bare metal. and he cant stand that its collapsing around him, and that its his fault, and that its shattering the image of the brilliant self made business genius that he had of himself in his head.

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[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"To be fair, I've always wanted to tell this to advertisers too"

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