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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 169 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I want shorter games with worse graphics made by people who are paid more to work less and I'm not kidding.

This thing is a scam, and you're all being taken for chumps. The only worse fraud than SC is buying Fatalities on Mortal Kombat.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There is this tiny company called Nihon Falcom. They make this game series called Trails that I adore. they have like three programmers work on each entry.

In the time since Star Citizen was announced they have released:

  • The Legend of Nayuta: Boundless Trails 2012
  • Ys: Memories of Celceta 2012
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel 2013
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II 2014
  • Tokyo Xanadu 2015
  • Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana 2016
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
  • Ys IX: Monstrum Nox 2019
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails Through Daybreak II
  • Ys X: Nordics

as well as a bunch of ports of older games to modern platforms and localizing them to the west. All of these are worth playing and some of these were GOTY material for me.

Its good to quantify how much time has passed, and how much you can get done with a smaller budget and focused scope.

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[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you play indie games? They seem to be exactly what you're describing.

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[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's now a season bundle. But it was $10 per fatality x 3. One for Halloween, one for Thanksgiving, and one for Christmas. That was a total of $30 for a whole minute of cut-scenes. They successfully Overton it, apologized and now it's $10 for the three scenes. But yeah, now buying Fatalities is a thing, look forward for your Easter Fatality edition and an extra Bunny skin version for only $4.99.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 100 points 10 months ago (10 children)
[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

don't judge until you've seen the dynamic cloth physics! that is what everyone wants, right?

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve been part of some amateur game dev projects and SC has the vibe of an amateur project where the devs are constantly focusing on whatever catches their fancy at the moment, going back and tinkering with things they’ve already made, and sort of aimlessly scope creeping. There’s nobody to strongarm them into writing, much less following a game design document.

All of that is intuitive to me to understand.

Then there is “the dream” that is being sold to people who want this type of game. That level of very specific fandom is also easy to understand, at least from a distance. People get super into all kinds of games and spend outsized amounts of money and time.

Star Citizen is like the perfect storm of these elements.

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[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 76 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wait, people are still dumping money into this?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 months ago (11 children)

It'll release ANY DAY NOW. -The idiots that keep giving RSI money

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[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think it has turned into a sunk cost fallacy for so many now. They put so much money into it they can't afford for it to fail/not continue.

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[–] defuru@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As a day 1 backer i would like to offer my sincerest apologies.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] finthechat@kbin.social 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is just like EVE Online for me - I am more interested in reading about the drama than the actual game itself.

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[–] INeedMana@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Star Citizen is only available on a single platform too. At least Cyberpunk was multiplatform.

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[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I dont have the energy to care about this game, just like I dont have the energy to care about George RR Martin or Patrick Rothfuss never finishing their products either.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Writers, no matter how good, are just regular people. I have much higher expectations and not as much patience towards a game studio with infinite money and no released games whatsoever in over a decade.

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[–] TheKracken@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I finally tried this game and holy shit is it terrible. The UI is janky and unintuitive. The movement is slow and stiff or sonic on crack and nothing in-between. The frame rate is terrible even on a decent machine with appropriate settings. Just overall a bad experience. I don't care if it's still "In development" get your fundamentals right before you go adding more shit.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

People think you can slap on an "in development" sticker to anything and absolve it of all criticism.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Scam Citizen still hustlin

[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Stop giving these scam artists money.

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[–] victron@programming.dev 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

JFC, I guess there's a lot of suckers in the world

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don’t understand they released a cinematic trailer of slow moving scenery only shots that makes it game of the year.

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[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] JdW@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I am not proud to say I was an original backer, but luckily only for like 25 bucks.

It became clear after a year or two it was vaporware. even if a product ever comes out it'll not be what I backed originally, which was Privateer TNG. So I stopped following the game, never played any of the tech demo's and just shake my head warily when I see news articles like this. Bernie Madoff is in jail for basically the same thing. How can people still support this travesty.

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[–] atocci@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What exactly is this game trying to be?

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And this is why producers or project leads are not always the villains when they force designers to cut content in games.

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[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 12 points 10 months ago

Whatever they can get you to pay money for

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 10 months ago

It's depressing to know that it's actually apparently more profitable to never really release a game than to release one and it be moderately popular

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t Star Citizen that grift game?

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Star Citizen players and Escape from Tarkov players. Both think their game will be finished before they are copied/cloned by a faster/better studio.

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[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I honestly feel like they should just release Squadron 42 now and then do Star Citizen. Let us have the ships and combat in an Ace Combat style game just in case Star Citizen never release.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That's the plan. They started with star citizen being the focus and then 2 years ago they pulled most of the staff to finish SQ42. Now that they're in the "polishing phase" for sq42 they have started pulling people back to work on star citizen. Next year is going to be big for star citizen, very very important core tech being implemented and a deluge of content should come with the reallocation of workers to star citizen.

Source: I'm literally obsessed with star citizen/sq42 and know too much about it, send help. (My wallet is ok lol)

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[–] Kichae@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think I've reached the point where no one will be able to convince me that Star Citizen is not a money laundering front.

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