HP. There’s the mistake.
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Huge Painintheass
Exactly
Highly Problematic
Yup
I worked with HP once at an internship like 15 years ago...I still avoid them because of the shitty experience.
I worked at one of their support centers decades ago now, and I'll never buy another product of theirs again.
I will say though that they did seem to support their enterprise hardware better, but thats not something I'd ever be in the market for anyway.
That's something. I worked at Dell for a year a long time ago and I can safely say it was the worst job of my life. Hated everything about it. I was jealous of the grounds keepers id see out my windows. Only lasted about 9 months. However, I still think their computers are decent as far as the big computer manufacturers go. I'd buy one today if I needed to. Although looking into manufacturers like system 76 makes me think I'll go that route for my next laptop.
I mean it’s not like a sane person would pay their own money to buy anything HP.
Still, I’ve been using HP laptops for 8+ hours a day in the last 5 years due to work, without having a choice.
Why is HP still out there doing business is beyond me.
What's even more beyond me is this guy picking HP in the first place.
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a 15in model with 12th gen 1215u, 8gb and 256gb ssd sold last week from multiple u.s. sources (dell direct and hp via walmart) for $250-260 this past week.
399gbp is about 500usd, totally plausible for a 'sale price' on a reasonably-spec'd (such as no discrete gpu) 17in model.
The one time I got a prebuilt desktop for myself it was an HP Omen. Terrible decision.
Single unit radiator that struggled to cope with the CPU under any load, custom case so a larger rad AIO won't fit, buy a new case.
Usb controllers overwhelmed while streaming and gaming so bought a controller card. Nope, there is only one slot on the mobo and that's for graphics. (Yes, I should have checked first)
Useless bloatware always crashing and popping up over screen. Changes made to windows registry mean sounds fade in if no sound was played for a while (including alerts or memes on stream so you only hear the last part)
Many regrets.
HP Omen
Only tangentially related, but I'm still kind of pissed about HP buying VoodooPC and doing basic fuck-all with it and just slapping the Omen name on stuff once in a while.
For those who don't remember, VoodooPC used to be a higher end prebuilt gaming computer company. You can go ahead and argue about why prebuilts are trash, not really the point, I don't know if they were at all good computers or worth the cost, but I thought they made some really cool looking computers if nothing else, and occasionally had some pretty cool ideas. The omen was one of their flagship offerings.
I may be misremembering, it's been like a decade, but I think HP acquired them pretty soon after Dell bought Alienware so it was probably their way of trying to stay competitive. I think by most accounts Dell kind of turned Alienware into shit, but at least they've kept the branding around and still make some cool-looking computers if nothing else.
Yeah, Voodoo back then was super expensive but they were quality at least. High end paint jobs and custom watercooling (in an era when AIO watercoolers didn't exist). Definitely something to lust after.
Now it's another crappy name slapped onto a crappy HP
Yeah. I had all of this plus their awful locked BIOS. Ended up cannibalizing the cpu, gpu and ssds into a new case/mobo/psu. Super worth it.
You could wipe it and restart, remove the bloat from run at startup at least.
I won't buy hp again myself I had a power supply die during covid because they for no reason made it propriety and claimed to not have any because of covid that whole pc ended up in the dump.
Think I tried to get one for about a year before giving up on it. Any normal pc I could have had back working the same day.
I bought a laptop that came with a broken charger, I could easily test it myself as a friend also had an HP laptop with the same brick (this was before the days of USB C).
I tried to make a warranty claim and they wanted me to send the laptop too and wipe the HDD, the RMA process would take weeks on top of that.
I ended up buying a 3rd party charger, I'm sure their RMA process is overly long and convoluted to deter people from making warranty claims
You could have bought whatever other brand and then buy an adapter for it.
There are like "dell to hp" adapter or stuff like that
Bullet dodged. Buy something else that is not HP
dell is better
latitude e5470
Does comparing a corporate machine with a bargain basement consumer system seen reasonable to you? You think Dell is above this type of incompetence? My sweet summer shill.
They're both shit companies - I sold HP systems for years, and was a brand marketing manager for most of Dell's products at one time or another.
I just switched from an e5470 to a 5420. I miss i8k, but welcome USB-C (and the faster speed so compiling AUR packages doesn't suck anymore).
And as someone that used various Dell systems for some time now: The only annoying part is the missing drivers for Linux.
On a separate note, I still don't understand how trackpoints on HP laptops work. There's no scroll button, how the fuck am I supposed to use this piece of shit if I can't scroll??? The thing that is meant to replace the mouse/trackpad for ease of use and ergonomics literally forces me to use a mouse or a trackpad. This doesn't make any fucking sense!!!